My new project... MFV Elizmor

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parsifal said:
Raffle it.

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'Your chance to win a luxury motor yacht.
Enjoy cruising to exotic locations climes with your friends. Picture yourself reclining on a deck chair, sipping a cool drink and listening to the orchestra playing 'Abide with me' while chef prepares your sumptuous lobster dinner.
This fine vessel only needs lifting into the water* then off you sail to fulfil your dreams.

Only £5 a ticket.

(*not included in offer)'

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She tried that with her "Scribble on my yacht for £5" the small print read..." I don't own a yacht and you may not get your scribble on one/it" Anyone thought about using the marinas lift to get it on an Army .......
 
pvb said:
I must admit I've not been sleeping well recently and, lying awake in the early hours, my mind has turned to the OP's original launching problem. Hours of idle musing have paid dividends, and I can now make a positive suggestion. Why not put the boat on a low-loader and drive it away from Preston?
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Hmm. In the Spirit of Michelangelo ''reveal the statue within" and all that clandestine tunnelling in 'The Great Escape'....Why not just instead remove Preston from around Elizmor? One pocketful of quay dirt at a time..

No lowloader needed, no survey, no ££
 
Wait until the summer. Cover it in jam, and millions upon millions of wasps will come and stick all over it, in their struggle to get free they will lift it into the sky.

It can then be flown to somewhere with a crane big enough.
 
pvb said:
I must admit I've not been sleeping well recently and, lying awake in the early hours, my mind has turned to the OP's original launching problem. Hours of idle musing have paid dividends, and I can now make a positive suggestion. Why not put the boat on a low-loader and drive it away from Preston?
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I think you are entirely wrong. You have been asleep all the time. Rip van Winkle springs to mind.
 
MrB said:
She tried that with her "Scribble on my yacht for £5" the small print read..." I don't own a yacht and you may not get your scribble on one/it" Anyone thought about using the marinas lift to get it on an Army .......
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Ah thanks MrB, I hadn't bothered to read the thread :D
 
zzyyxx said:
Wait until the summer. Cover it in jam, and millions upon millions of wasps will come and stick all over it, in their struggle to get free they will lift it into the sky.

It can then be flown to somewhere with a crane big enough.
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I think this idea definitely has wings. I wonder if one of the jam manufacturers might sponsor the idea and provide the jam at no cost?
 
dom said:
What on earth is your obsession with sex?

But let me ask another question; are the true keyboard warriors not those fragile folk who lurk the shadows, ever vigilant against the merest tiny hint of insult or sarcasm, always ready to summon the gods of political correctness and launch a hail of sanctimonious invective?
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I wish I could write as succinctly as that. Top marks dom.
 
Wandering Star said:
I think this idea definitely has wings. I wonder if one of the jam manufacturers might sponsor the idea and provide the jam at no cost?
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That's ridiculous, you are working against gravity. Moles.

Undermining, excess rainfall, sink hole, slump - launch. Not sure if the order is correct but the eventual outcome is inevitable.
 
After a recent conversation with the very attractive blonde daughter of a friend of mine in which I was moaning about the manners of Warrington motorists never flashing me out of a particular junction she commented that I must be talking about a different junction. In her experience everyone at that junction was the very definition of manners. She was almost always flashed out by a nice, happily smiling man.

It occurred to me she has an entirely different experience of life than mine as a grizzled, bearded, 6 foot 5 man. Maybe Ellie has disappeared in shock that people can be mean? I have since noticed that I too am the kind of man that flashes out (note the 'out') certain types of people more often than others, so wish the OP success in her venture and the rest of you can b****r off.
 
Swanrad2 said:
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Maybe Ellie has disappeared in shock that people can be mean? I have since noticed that I too am the kind of man that flashes out (note the 'out') certain types of people more often than others, so wish the OP success in her venture and the rest of you can b****r off.
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I think it must be something more fundamental than that - her web site and blog have also been abandoned for some time and she's in control of them. In fact she needs them in order to justify the freebies she's been collecting from manufacturers in exchange for publicity.
 
clyst said:
Golly you maybe onto a winner there !! Didn't Robinsons sponsor Naomi James In her Atlantic crossing or summin ?
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Clare Francis. They named the boat "Robinson's Golly" and children would come up to the dockside and sing "see you at teatime". From the book Hell or High Water, a good read.
 
Lazy Kipper said:
Clare Francis. They named the boat "Robinson's Golly" and children would come up to the dockside and sing "see you at teatime". From the book Hell or High Water, a good read.
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Ah, not really relevant as, in those days you had to do something (or at least attempt and possibly die in the process) to earn your sponsorship.

If you live, you may get the opportunity to write a book about the experience.

These days all you have to do is tell everybody what you are going to do via your Blog. Your Blog will be interactive with 'friends' who will be quick to call what you are about to do 'inspirational'.

Oh, before anybody accuses me of Elliebashing there is no age limit to this practice and I could cite other examples with little difficulty. There is, however, a certain moral impediment to be overcome. But, once you have told one porkie - all the others are easier.

But, for most, that is not an issue.
 
Lazy Kipper said:
As summaries go that is remarkably inaccurate.

Try this:

Forumaite buys boat with known issue of very costly launch
Forumite does not approach marina before buying the boat to check launch price
In the meantime legitimately uses our interest in her story to leverage some free gear
Then discovers that the launch will be as costly as the previous owner said it would be
Forumite claims that "it's not fair that my ownership is being spoiled like this"
Meanwhile lots of those who showed interest come up with good, bad and mad ways of solving the launch problem
Criticism of marina by forumite and forum begins
Marina set the record straight and forumite immediately ceases to post on this forum or her own blog
Forum is bemused by her silence
Forum then continues to use it's own social network resource as the story is a human interest one; remember, it's the same social network resource that the forumite used to leverage some free gear
Forum continues to be good, bad and mad in the same quantities as before
Occasionally people pop up to post on the thread saying people shouldn't post on the thread

Is that a bit more accurate?
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I must be on a different forum than you, I just read every post JE made on the thread and couldn't see the ones slagging off the marina or of her moaning. I'm sure there were many grumpy old gits doing these on her behalf but her own posts seem quite reasonable to me, and seem to match up with the marina response quite well.
 
chinita said:
Ah, not really relevant as, in those days you had to do something (or at least attempt and possibly die in the process) to earn your sponsorship.

If you live, you may get the opportunity to write a book about the experience.

These days all you have to do is tell everybody what you are going to do via your Blog. Your Blog will be interactive with 'friends' who will be quick to call what you are about to do 'inspirational'.

Oh, before anybody accuses me of Elliebashing there is no age limit to this practice and I could cite other examples with little difficulty. There is, however, a certain moral impediment to be overcome. But, once you have told one porkie - all the others are easier.

But, for most, that is not an issue.
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I'm not sure what your point is. In the old days, people gave you things to risk your life. these days, marketing folk measure the return on investment and act accordingly. Ellie is a digital marketing professional and seems quite adept at showing this return on investment value to companies. There may well only be 100 people who see that she has a Garmin on the boat, but those 100 people are all boaters who are actively interested in boating and refurbishing boats. Compare that with smearing your product across the TV screen. You may get 500000 people seeing your product on the TV but how many of those are remotely interested in your product? This is the exact reason Facebook makes so much money, they aren't charging for an advert, they are charging to show an advert to someone who has demonstrated interest in your product category. It's like a proactive Yellow Pages which opens to the relevant page and shows you what you didn't know you needed and it's more valuable than most people seem to realise.
 
nathanglasgow said:
'Bout 30K
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Gosh - lot of boat shaped home sitting in a car park for that amount!

So £6k for getting her in the water is a sizeable sum but prob not very significant if she reacts as you would expect after ten years ashore.

I saw one post saying that JE had not even bought the boat. I can't believe that to be true or Preston Marina would not have even engaged in conversation.

I hope it works out well and the dream is renewed.

Went down my boat today after a few weeks of not having time - very refreshing!
 
She can 'digitally market' it all she likes but, as a yachtsman, I think I would be more interested in a product installed by somebody who sails singlehanded to Greenland and back in a 21ft boat than somebody who motors an old fishing boat from Preston to Brighton to live on.

Anyway, that is not my point. My point is all about tense - as in future or past. I am not interested in what people say they are going to do, only what they have done.

But that appears to be out of fashion.
 
lustyd said:
I'm not sure what your point is. In the old days, people gave you things to risk your life. these days, marketing folk measure the return on investment and act accordingly. Ellie is a digital marketing professional and seems quite adept at showing this return on investment value to companies. There may well only be 100 people who see that she has a Garmin on the boat, but those 100 people are all boaters who are actively interested in boating and refurbishing boats. Compare that with smearing your product across the TV screen. You may get 500000 people seeing your product on the TV but how many of those are remotely interested in your product? This is the exact reason Facebook makes so much money, they aren't charging for an advert, they are charging to show an advert to someone who has demonstrated interest in your product category. It's like a proactive Yellow Pages which opens to the relevant page and shows you what you didn't know you needed and it's more valuable than most people seem to realise.
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Agreed. The internet has changed everything. We are very close to companies on the internet showing you a product with a price that is designed for you based on your browsing history. The person sitting next to you will see a different price. Mobile telecoms are already using browsing history to actively market to you.

Absolutely nothing wrong with a company and an individual entering a sponsorship agreement; often cheaper than advertising.
 
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