My new project... MFV Elizmor

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Seajet said:
You missed out


Many suggestions from forum members trying to be helpful - the majority of the thread, and

Respected forumite doesn't have the courtesy to acknowledge :rolleyes:
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I read enough to know that her last post was probably the appropriate place for her to stop reading. No new information or advice appears to have been added in the 1000 posts since and the forum appears to have decided to evict her from her home for some reason I can't quite fathom.
 
lustyd said:
I read enough to know that her last post was probably the appropriate place for her to stop reading. No new information or advice appears to have been added in the 1000 posts since and the forum appears to have decided to evict her from her home for some reason I can't quite fathom.
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And the next hurdle is nearly here! Yard fees paid till April? How much does a 50 odd ft boat cost to park in Preston?
Stu
 
lustyd said:
I read enough to know that her last post was probably the appropriate place for her to stop reading. No new information or advice appears to have been added in the 1000 posts since and the forum appears to have decided to evict her from her home for some reason I can't quite fathom.
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I have lost count of the post numbers, but I and others continue to post suggestions; I was in contact with Ellie in the early stages and when I mentioned this a friend of hers contacted me, as he is also having trouble getting in touch with her, she seems to have ' done a runner ' !

Not sure about the ' eviction ' bit ?
 
Bit of thread drift, but not like this hasn't drifted to infinity, and beyond, already.

What's the deal with living aboard at Brighton at the moment? We're contemplating where to park up when we return to the UK next year. We're planning to live aboard whilst house hunting, so probably a few months at least, but we won't be in any rush as we want to find the right place. We had contemplated Brighton as a good choice if London based marinas don't pan out.
 
lustyd said:
  • Forum doesn't think she should have sponsors, despite the sponsors, forum owners and respected forumite being happy with the situation
  • Respected forumite finds it more costly to launch than first envisaged
  • Forum decides marina is therefore evil
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You forget the bit about the forumite trying to use the forum to whip up a social media storm against the marina, and the bit about the many doubts expressed about the "sponsorship" before the launch difficulties arose, and the forumite's disappearance when the marina she criticised told their side of the story, and the bit about people being free to have their own opinions of postings or topics here.

Otherwise, spot on.
 
lustyd said:
So having just read some of this thread (admittedly not all) it looks to me like the summary is:

  • Respected forumite buys boat
  • Respected forumite makes blog about boat and agrees to write articles about the launch and journey for boating mag
  • Respected forumite gets sponsorship
  • Forum doesn't think she should have sponsors, despite the sponsors, forum owners and respected forumite being happy with the situation
  • Respected forumite finds it more costly to launch than first envisaged
  • Forum decides marina is therefore evil
  • Marina explains why they are not evil
  • Respected forumite continues trying to launch
  • Forum concludes (over many, many pointless posts) that the respected forumite should be evicted not only from her new boat but also from her old boat and marina


What on earth is wrong with this forum?
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As summaries go that is remarkably inaccurate.

Try this:

Forumaite buys boat with known issue of very costly launch
Forumite does not approach marina before buying the boat to check launch price
In the meantime legitimately uses our interest in her story to leverage some free gear
Then discovers that the launch will be as costly as the previous owner said it would be
Forumite claims that "it's not fair that my ownership is being spoiled like this"
Meanwhile lots of those who showed interest come up with good, bad and mad ways of solving the launch problem
Criticism of marina by forumite and forum begins
Marina set the record straight and forumite immediately ceases to post on this forum or her own blog
Forum is bemused by her silence
Forum then continues to use it's own social network resource as the story is a human interest one; remember, it's the same social network resource that the forumite used to leverage some free gear
Forum continues to be good, bad and mad in the same quantities as before
Occasionally people pop up to post on the thread saying people shouldn't post on the thread

Is that a bit more accurate?
 
lustyd said:
I read enough to know that her last post was probably the appropriate place for her to stop reading. No new information or advice appears to have been added in the 1000 posts since and the forum appears to have decided to evict her from her home for some reason I can't quite fathom.
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I don't think anyone wants to evict her from her home. However, since the project appears to have been rather poorly planned - to put it mildly - I think it's reasonable to wonder whether the southern end of it will throw up as many issues as he northern end. Will we get "Brighton Marina are being horrible" postings in a couple of months?
 
That Lazy Kipper version does seem more accurate to my reading but there is one other point that somebody raised a few thousand posts ago, and that is that if the original poster was a fifty year old bloke with dodgy teeth and profound flatulence that this thread would have died a long time ago. As most of us fit that description we should have the sense to let this thread die a peaceful death and hope that away from the glare of well meaning middle aged blokes that it gets sorted.

Lazy Kipper said:
As summaries go that is remarkably inaccurate.

Try this:

Forumaite buys boat with known issue of very costly launch
Forumite does not approach marina before buying the boat to check launch price
In the meantime legitimately uses our interest in her story to leverage some free gear
Then discovers that the launch will be as costly as the previous owner said it would be
Forumite claims that "it's not fair that my ownership is being spoiled like this"
Meanwhile lots of those who showed interest come up with good, bad and mad ways of solving the launch problem
Criticism of marina by forumite and forum begins
Marina set the record straight and forumite immediately ceases to post on this forum or her own blog
Forum is bemused by her silence
Forum then continues to use it's own social network resource as the story is a human interest one; remember, it's the same social network resource that the forumite used to leverage some free gear
Forum continues to be good, bad and mad in the same quantities as before
Occasionally people pop up to post on the thread saying people shouldn't post on the thread

Is that a bit more accurate?
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Lazy Kipper said:
As summaries go that is remarkably inaccurate.

Try this:

Forumaite buys boat with known issue of very costly launch
Forumite does not approach marina before buying the boat to check launch price
In the meantime legitimately uses our interest in her story to leverage some free gear
Then discovers that the launch will be as costly as the previous owner said it would be
Forumite claims that "it's not fair that my ownership is being spoiled like this"
Meanwhile lots of those who showed interest come up with good, bad and mad ways of solving the launch problem
Criticism of marina by forumite and forum begins
Marina set the record straight and forumite immediately ceases to post on this forum or her own blog
Forum is bemused by her silence
Forum then continues to use it's own social network resource as the story is a human interest one; remember, it's the same social network resource that the forumite used to leverage some free gear
Forum continues to be good, bad and mad in the same quantities as before
Occasionally people pop up to post on the thread saying people shouldn't post on the thread

Is that a bit more accurate?
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Spot on.
 
Lazy Kipper said:
As summaries go that is remarkably inaccurate.

Try this:

Forumaite buys boat with known issue of very costly launch
Forumite does not approach marina before buying the boat to check launch price
In the meantime legitimately uses our interest in her story to leverage some free gear
Then discovers that the launch will be as costly as the previous owner said it would be
Forumite claims that "it's not fair that my ownership is being spoiled like this"
Meanwhile lots of those who showed interest come up with good, bad and mad ways of solving the launch problem
Criticism of marina by forumite and forum begins
Marina set the record straight and forumite immediately ceases to post on this forum or her own blog
Forum is bemused by her silence
Forum then continues to use it's own social network resource as the story is a human interest one; remember, it's the same social network resource that the forumite used to leverage some free gear
Forum continues to be good, bad and mad in the same quantities as before
Occasionally people pop up to post on the thread saying people shouldn't post on the thread

Is that a bit more accurate?
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Surely a definitive summary should reference the thread's official anthem, "Go Ellie Go!"?
 
Toutvabien said:
That Lazy Kipper version does seem more accurate to my reading but there is one other point that somebody raised a few thousand posts ago, and that is that if the original poster was a fifty year old bloke with dodgy teeth and profound flatulence that this thread would have died a long time ago. (...)
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It is interesting how ready so many old men have been to heap abuse on a young woman they have never met.

Could it be be that they are saddened and embittered by the certain knowledge that no young woman would look twice at them without a shudder of revulsion, and that the nearest they are likely to get to a young woman is drooling over one of Lakesailor's photos of naked girls young enough to be their daughters or granddaughters?
 
parsifal said:
It is interesting how ready so many old men have been to heap abuse on a young woman they have never met.

Could it be be that they are saddened and embittered by the certain knowledge that no young woman would look twice at them without a shudder of revulsion, and that the nearest they are likely to get to a young woman is drooling over one of Lakesailor's photos of naked girls young enough to be their daughters or granddaughters?
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I'll be marginally more charitable and suggest it's because they see someone doing something in their youth that they wish they could have done and yet know that those days are long gone.
 
Well put parsifal, I was also wondering about that. It maintains the fantasy that we are still in meaningful communication with young women in their 20's. (Probably only true for rich Russians with very large yachts)

parsifal said:
It is interesting how ready so many old men have been to heap abuse on a young woman they have never met.

Could it be be that they are saddened and embittered by the certain knowledge that no young woman would look twice at them without a shudder of revulsion, and that the nearest they are likely to get to a young woman is drooling over one of Lakesailor's photos of naked girls young enough to be their daughters or granddaughters?
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lustyd said:
So having just read some of this thread (admittedly not all) it looks to me like the summary is:

  • Respected forumite buys boat
  • Respected forumite makes blog about boat and agrees to write articles about the launch and journey for boating mag
  • Respected forumite gets sponsorship
  • Forum doesn't think she should have sponsors, despite the sponsors, forum owners and respected forumite being happy with the situation
  • Respected forumite finds it more costly to launch than first envisaged
  • Forum decides marina is therefore evil
  • Marina explains why they are not evil
  • Respected forumite continues trying to launch
  • Forum concludes (over many, many pointless posts) that the respected forumite should be evicted not only from her new boat but also from her old boat and marina


What on earth is wrong with this forum?
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Nothing at all. It's a forum. people come on to discuss things. That is what is meant to happen.

Lazy Kipper said:
As summaries go that is remarkably inaccurate.

Try this:

Forumaite buys boat with known issue of very costly launch
Forumite does not approach marina before buying the boat to check launch price
In the meantime legitimately uses our interest in her story to leverage some free gear
Then discovers that the launch will be as costly as the previous owner said it would be
Forumite claims that "it's not fair that my ownership is being spoiled like this"
Meanwhile lots of those who showed interest come up with good, bad and mad ways of solving the launch problem
Criticism of marina by forumite and forum begins
Marina set the record straight and forumite immediately ceases to post on this forum or her own blog
Forum is bemused by her silence
Forum then continues to use it's own social network resource as the story is a human interest one; remember, it's the same social network resource that the forumite used to leverage some free gear
Forum continues to be good, bad and mad in the same quantities as before
Occasionally people pop up to post on the thread saying people shouldn't post on the thread

Is that a bit more accurate?
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Entirely accurate.

parsifal said:
It is interesting how ready so many old men have been to heap abuse on a young woman they have never met.

Could it be be that they are saddened and embittered by the certain knowledge that no young woman would look twice at them without a shudder of revulsion, and that the nearest they are likely to get to a young woman is drooling over one of Lakesailor's photos of naked girls young enough to be their daughters or granddaughters?
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What a very strange take you have on the situation. If it were a 50 year-old bloke with bad teeth and flatulence the comments would be a lot harsher. Along the lines of
"You stupid old fart, what made you think this would have a good outcome."

However I am sure the 50 year-old bloke with bad teeth and flatulence would still be on here telling us to knob off, or thanking us for our inane suggestions.
 
parsifal said:
It is interesting how ready so many old men have been to heap abuse on a young woman they have never met.
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I have seen no heaping of abuse, or even gentle sprinkling of abuse. Such criticism as there has been have been of the OP's actions and not of her personally. Furthermore, all the negative reactions to those criticisms have come from third parties - would these keyboard warriors be quite so keen to defend someone they didn't fancy?

Worth saying again: If and when Eleanor returns here I am sure she will be treated with friendship, sympathy and understanding.
 
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And if the 50 year old bloke with bad teeth and flatulence ignored the thread for several weeks other 50 year old blokes with bad teeth and flatulence would continue to post on it??????????
 
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