Moody v Bavaria

[PeterGibbs]

Unlike the car industry, boat builders often invite serious would-be buyers to have a look at the product in the making. Not a definitive exercise to be sure but one that can add weight to other considerations.

In the case of Bavaria, why not hop on a plane to Wurzburg and have a look at the plant in Giebelstad. That's what I did and it clinched it for me. A little money well invested.

If you go ahead, you will then join the ranks of those who, like me, have seen the Bavaria product in the planning, making etc and smile indulgently at those who, for their own insufficient reasons, cast unfounded doubts on these boats.

PWG

 

[windlipper]

Thanks for the comment Peter, comforting to see remarks like yours as I've just bought one!

 

[Tranona]

Was waiting for you to join in Peter. Maybe for those who cant visit the factory the agent should put a link to the promotional video of the factory. That would open a few eyes.

 

[Bajansailor]

It is an excellent video for sure!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GIciQXXkd4Q&NR=1

 

[Refueler]

Seen the vid.
Have PBO's article with loads of photos etc.

Have also measured keel to hull compression on bav 40, 44 etc. on clients request at their alarm of amount visual.

Have inspected keel mounts and crazing.

Have spoken to a very successful Bav agent who categorically said we sell em but would never own one.

This of course can be laid at many boat models feet as well, it is not unique to Bav. Westerly had their moments with "penny washers" .... poor strengthening webs carrying keel stresses.

Saying above - I admit I am no Bav fan, prefering older boats, partly because I'm a skinflint ... but lets try and leave that aside.
Bav like Legend etc. provide for a market, have brought wider appeal to our world. Given bigger boat for money etc.
I would not turn one away if offered to me FOC ... as to how long I would keep it is another matter. Wife would probably try to get me to keep it despite the resin aroma that has pervaded every Bav I have been on ... even years after production.

Onto another point - if you buy a "new" Bav can you g'tee that boat was only built just before you ordered or is it a "British Leyland" boat - stood in a yard for considerable time, needing professional cleaning and sprucing up before being put on transporter to ship out ? Seems I remember being told by a trucking co. shipping Bav's out that HIN was put on AFTER cleaning and just before placing on transport - dated that day of course ... Do please tell me he was wrong ?

I don't knock anyone who decides to buy what boat suits them. What does annoy me is unbalanced comparison of boats completely different. If the comparative study was to list pluses and minuses particular to the marque and not against each other - fair enough.
I do not believe a fair appraisal can be made as above illustrates.

The difference can be summed up very simply I think.

Sit on a pontoon watching boats come in and out. Moody 3x size comes in and no-one says much ... may be odd comment .. that's a clean moody, or that looks well looked after ... you know the sort.
Bav 3x comes in and I bet there are quite a few "Oh G** another Bav ... " or "there's another ...... "

They don't seem to cut same style of comment ... /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[Phoenix of Hamble]

Mainly IMHO because most owners of the expensive marques secretly know that they've been suckered by the marketing, and paid way over the odds...... but then they'd never admit that would they?.... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[Refueler]

Clever comment ... ! If I disagree with you - I'm damned. If I agree with you I support ................

I've been on various boats of various years age. The more expensive marques I have generally found worn better.

Was on a Nicholson other week ... it was mid 70's. If any AWB could look like that after 30 odd years ? Sorry but I don't think so. They not only had original pristine WOOD furnishings but the Nicholson Dinner set presented with the boat. We had dinner of it .... simply put Quality shines through.

 

[Phoenix of Hamble]

hee hee.... well i've got a 1970's Austin Maxi tool kit that is in excellent condition..... so I can only agree that quality must shine through...... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[Robin]

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Was on a Nicholson other week ... it was mid 70's. If any AWB could look like that after 30 odd years ? Sorry but I don't think so. They not only had original pristine WOOD furnishings but the Nicholson Dinner set presented with the boat. We had dinner of it .... simply put Quality shines through.

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I don't have a pic of the original Jeanneau crockery but we do have it, although we prefer the china and cut glass for in harbour. The wood isn't too bad though is it? Oh and it isn't mdf either and the hull is kevlar laid up all over, the stuff bullet proof vests are made with and it took 6th place in an Azab. Of course this one is only 20 years old....

We were invited on a 20 year old Bav too this summer and it was really good. By the same token we have seen quite a few grotty 'classics'. What it really comes down to is if the owners really care.


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[Refueler]

Did I ever say the words Jeanneau ?

In fact I gave details to a friend of mine looking for a 36ft boat ... of a Jeanneau 37 in West Country .... that I considered good deal. He visited ... liked ... had good price agreement and decided to but another boat ... He later admitted I was right !

Oh - have you ever actually held Nicholson Crockery of the 70's builds ? Not same mate !! Sorry ...