Forty_Two
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They finally removed "Fields of Barley" from the playlist only to fill it with Adele & 'sound alikes' wailing away all day. Completely unlistenable as mentioned earlier ?
Med boaters - will you get to your boat this year?
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Bouba
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Some of us believe that after 1979 no more music has been written
Clancy Moped
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They used to have a phone in on the breakfast show, I used to phone in as Reginald Dwight? asking daft questions!
Portofino
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RR s “ Bevins Frank” financial advice used to send me off to sleep in the afternoon .
Twaddle !
Twaddle !
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Dunno who to believe then because over here in Blighty the media is talking about the Beta (S African) variant sweeping across France, not the Delta variant. The Beta variant is apparently more resistant to the vaccines which is why its of concern in the UK
France could be placed on the red list over ‘significantly higher prevalence’ of the Beta variant | London Business News | Londonlovesbusiness.com
I find it really difficult to believe that the UK govt will red list France not least because setting up hotel quarantine arrangements at different airports and ferry/tunnel terminals for tens of thousands of people returning from France will be a logistical nightmare. And we're not talking about hotel quarantining Indian and Pakistani nationals here but middle class, Tory voting Home Counties residents which is going to generate a whole load of angry column inches in the Tory media
Portofino
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They could return it to the 10 day quarantine with returners from France .
Date coincides when Stanley + rest of extended family rtn of course just a coincidence you see ?
Date coincides when Stanley + rest of extended family rtn
of course just a coincidence you see ?
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They could return it to the 10 day quarantine with returners from France .
Date coincides when Stanley + rest of extended family rtn
There already is a 10 day return quarantine period for non vaxxed people as France is an amber listed country so what are you suggesting?
The country to watch is Italy because The Witch Carrie is apparently well smitten with Italy as a holiday destination. I predict that Italy could be green listed just before Carrie and Bozo go off on their hols. This of course is good news for us SoF boaters as well if France is red listed. Fly into Nice and back from Milan sounds like a plan
Portofino
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Mike recent Amber rules for 2x vaxed returning are no quarantine just a PCR test within 48 hrs rtn to the U.K. .
So I was suggesting move back to the full monty 2+8 test for a 10 day Q with or without a 5 day early release, prob best to make them do the full 10 imho …..be cautious.
On your EU passenger locator to move into Italy from France it’s will flag up you have just been in a red list ( France ??) and the UKs return form within the past 14 days or so .
If it’s a short less than 14 days the Italians might want you to quarantine for 5 days See Chris H recents posts a bit back ^^^ .
You would be either very brave or very foolish imho to blag it you never left IT , conceal your trip to Fr .
Others on here might want to come in on that .Personally I would not conceal anything on a form regarding this stuff .
Also on your outbound trip @ the IT / Fr border Ventimigalia ( sp ? ) if your passport is scanned unlikely as presume you will be in a IT hire car then you are in the system .Ok it’s a big ask the “ system “ actually works .
When you enter IT @ Ventimigalia on rtn your passport will be scanned by the IT .Assume the “ system “ logs where from ie Fr ?
Rock up at a uk airport , U.K. rescan it and I hope you enjoy your 10 days of curled up ham sarnies + packet of crisps mate
As you are “ pulled “and escorted to a hotel .Anyhow let’s talk biology and disease , if Beta ends up rampant in the SoF is it worth risking it and ending up a statistic in the U.K. numbers ?
Give it 2 weeks before anyone makes the call .
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Seastoke
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Put them in hotels in Watford they will be glad they are locked in.
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Fair play. Good prediction because thats what the UK govt has done tonight which will f**k up the holidays of tens of thousands Brits booked to go to France this summer. Luckily we boat owners have mobile hotels
There is no French locator form just a statement on a piece of paper that you are not suffering from Covid and which the last time we entered France nobody bothered to collect anyway and as for passport checks at Ventimiglia, I've crossed that border many times and never seen any sign of passport checks.
I'm thinking now fly into Nice, spend a few days in France and 10 days before we are due to return to the UK go boating in Italy, leave the boat in an Italian marina and fly back from an Italian airport. Thats the 10 days quarantine done
AllanG
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Above has just been confirmed by the Gov
Covid: Fully jabbed UK arrivals from France must still quarantine Covid: Fully jabbed UK arrivals from France must still quarantine
jointventureII
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I've got 2 guys that have crossed the border at Ventimiglia twice weekly for 3 years and have never been stopped
Let me know if you end up in Genoa!
Portofino
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The Italians were passport scanning at the Mont Blanc / Aosta portal .FWIW ?
You need at least 14 days having not been in a “country of variant of concern “ to exempt the 5 day quarantine when entering Italy . Your passport would have been scanned at the departure date in the U.K. when entering the EU initially in this case France .
So the Italians will pick up where you have been in the previous 14 days .
So your plan in theory would work on a 1 Months trip .First 2 weeks undoing Italy’s 5 day Q rule and the next 2 weeks in Italy undoing the UKs Fr 10 day Q rule .
As it stands at the time of this post .
Wether anyone gives a dam at the newfound Italian Marina remains to be seen .
The issue if your passport is not scanned into a Italy on arrival in the U.K. they will challenge your alleged 14 days in Italy undoing the U.K. quarantine rules .So you want passport x border visibility into Italy .Yes ?
longjohnsilver
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That's good news for some of the 20,000 or employed to check/annoy Brits returning home from abroad. I suppose we should be grateful it’s not 11 nights in a prison hotel.
Portofino
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Are they tourists from a third party none EU state Subsequently on the 90 in 180 malarkey?
Peterlewis321
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Very nice-love the Axopars. And that will shift with the 300 on it? Enjoy
Portofino
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Appears to me they ( all govs ) are broadly following the biology .
The article says it’s missed the last sample 4 July issues , so it’s old in virus spread pandemic terms data .Indeed the last “ flash “ was 22 June eek !
How ever what I think can be gleaned is the relative proportions of the Delta and Beta .
The Beta orange appears not to becoming suppressed like Alpha blue , as Delta green grows .
Fast Fwds 3/4 weeks and it could be in $hit street if that Beta orange starts to dominate at the next “ flash “
Red arrows ( sorry bobbing on anchor re squidgy marks )…..Safe off the Italian coast.- sorry couldn’t resist guys !
Additionally if I may 77 % vax effectiveness is insufficient by anyones standards with vaccination programs.
Theres no exact figure i can give you but it needs to be very high 80 s into the 90 s .No vax program is ever 100 % btw .
All I know is 77 % is a duffer .
We ( Eu govs ) need the next “ flash “ results which are long overdue .Hope the 4 th July celebrations are a genuine reason Macron ?
If the orange Beta exceeds the green Delta then they are basically knackered , and the way out is severe lockdowns AGAIN , until a suitable effective vax ( 88-96 % ) is drummed up and circulated all over again .
Stripping out the Fr colonies would make the data more useful to the EU .
Thats a glimmer of hope the colonies have corrupted the usefulness of the date - let’s hope ?
The article says it’s missed the last sample 4 July issues , so it’s old in virus spread pandemic terms data .Indeed the last “ flash “ was 22 June eek !
How ever what I think can be gleaned is the relative proportions of the Delta and Beta .
The Beta orange appears not to becoming suppressed like Alpha blue , as Delta green grows .
Fast Fwds 3/4 weeks and it could be in $hit street if that Beta orange starts to dominate at the next “ flash “
Red arrows ( sorry bobbing on anchor re squidgy marks
)…..Safe off the Italian coast.- sorry couldn’t resist guys !Additionally if I may 77 % vax effectiveness is insufficient by anyones standards with vaccination programs.
Theres no exact figure i can give you but it needs to be very high 80 s into the 90 s .No vax program is ever 100 % btw .
All I know is 77 % is a duffer .
We ( Eu govs ) need the next “ flash “ results which are long overdue .Hope the 4 th July celebrations are a genuine reason Macron ?
If the orange Beta exceeds the green Delta then they are basically knackered , and the way out is severe lockdowns AGAIN , until a suitable effective vax ( 88-96 % ) is drummed up and circulated all over again .
Stripping out the Fr colonies would make the data more useful to the EU .
Thats a glimmer of hope the colonies have corrupted the usefulness of the date - let’s hope ?
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mcanderson
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According to the WHO 50% is considered to be effective
Vaccine efficacy, effectiveness and protection
Vaccine efficacy, effectiveness and protection
jointventureII
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No they're both French passport holders but it's often been in UK plated car. The border by the sea (the SS1 or Aurelia) is manned a lot but the autostrada hardly ever. I have been over myself quite a lot in the last 6 months or so and not been stopped once either, in my Jersey reg car.
Edit - saw this going out of and back into Loano last weekend, presume it was you?
