Mayday, Pan-pan, Securite.

[powerskipper]

There is a reason for this post; I would like to ask the forum a question. Could the forum members please post the circumstances in which they have made a Mayday, Pan-Pan or Securite call?

The reason for this is, When I teach VHF courses I use scenario card of different situations to discuss what type of VHF call would be used, /forums/images/icons/smile.gif
e.g.
Rubber matt
Rib 9.6m Hand held VHF/DSC
Position is given.
Man overboard, 1 person left on board.
Approximately 4nm off shore.
Wind 4-5 5ft swell.



Or Zippy Zee
Hobby Cat, Hand held VHF/DSC.
Position given,
No wind and you are drifting out to sea on a spring outgoing tide, at present you are approximately 3 miles off shore.
Wind 0

So if you would like to post what happened to you and if possible what the coastguard did or the RLNI, it would be of great help to me and would be interesting to read./forums/images/icons/cool.gif

Thank you in advance for any help./forums/images/icons/smile.gif



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[powerskipper]

PS. I would like to say a big thank you to Col and Soletaire for there great help and wonderfull computer skills./forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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[barryjl]

Fortunately I've never had to make such a call and I hope I never will. Did run out of fuel once though a few years ago (faulty guage honest!!) and managed to get those nice chaps from Sea Start to come out in their RIB with a jerry can!

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[tripleace]

Securite.

11.00 at night all three engine dead, drifting out on the 11th Aug full eclipse tide in the estuary.

we had the choice of anchor in the middle of the shipping lane .... NO

drift out with tide.. no wind so we were staying in the shipping lane...... NO


ask for help..... YES PLEASE


very frightening.




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[barryjl]

Finish then story then ..what happened next?

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[Oldhand]

If you have enough knowledge to teach VHF courses you should know and not have to ask the rest of the world!

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[PhilF]

Cut me do I not bleed!

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[BrendanS]

Powerskipper asked for real life scenarios to use in training, not an explanation of the difference between the calls. What's wrong with that?

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[Solitaire]

That's a bit unfair. It rings the changes in a teaching environmet. Real life examples are far more practical and benefical to students than made up. If you have nothing positive to add best you keep stumm. As a trainer it is difficult at times to come up with new and different senarios which can refelt a real situation.

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[Observer]

I hope you meant pan pan/urgency.

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[Renegade_Master]

Gosh wonder what the chances are of all THREE engines going at once thosuands/millions to one?

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[barryjl]

Why does Oldhand have to make a negative remarks like that - what mileage is there? Surely there is nothing better than real life scenarios to demonstrate what the teaching is all about?

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[PhilF]

And remains securely annonymous


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[powerskipper]

Off course /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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[tr7v8]

I think I now know who wrote the article somewhile back for either MBM or MBY.
Makes interesting reading, I am sure Tripleace will post the date if I'm right!

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[tripleace]

correct, thats was the one.

Port engine failed with a new fuel line breaking ( fitted two weeks earlier because of the bloody boat safety thing) old one good for 10 years but new super BSC one lasted 2 weeks)

Middle engine failed because of water / muck in fuel.

could not bleed engine and restart because fuel level too low. Sealine lift pumps only pump if fuel tanks 3/4 plus high.

last engine failed as above 4 hours later.

The article was actually my personal log of the events. nice to get something into print.




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[tripleace]

can't actually remember, think we started off notifing woolwich we were in trouble.

believe it was at first a notification to woolwich radio, who themselves put out a Securite.

It was hearing Triple ace broadcasted on an all ships warning that was really frightening

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[tripleace]

end of story.

it was all in the MBY article but....

woolwich radio notified all ships we were adrift.

they also despatched and sent to our rescue a port authority 42ft nelson. they towed us to Erith moorings and next day we got all three engines running and came home.




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[Dave_Snelson]

Be fair!

Julie is asking for real life scenarios. The subject of teaching VHF can be a tad dry, to say the least. Practise in association with real life examples can inject a)interest and b) knowledge based on past experience.

I issued a Securite last summer to all stations in North Cardigan Bay. I was returing home late one evening from a fishing trip and I was navigating on GPS way points into Porthmadog harbour as it was getting too dark to see the unlit bouys.

The number 3 is particularly important, as this is the entrance over the bar into the estuary. And anyone who knows the bar at Porthmadog, will know how bad it can be, especially for yachts.

There was a small group of yachts "wandering around" where the no 3 should have been - it had broken loose and floated away, so there were two dangers, 1 an unlit rogue bouy floating around somewhere and 2, no way for the boats to navigate safely over the bar.

I guided the boats in and issued a Securite. The harbour master recovered the bouy on a beach a few miles away, the following day, and replaced its mooring back on station.

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[TwoStroke]

Popeye
20ft sports boat
leaving brighton marina
wind F6, waves 8-9ft
Handheld and fixed VHF/DSC

just before entrance, wave knocks out throttle and engine, swamps boat - no power - 8ft from marina wall and closing.

Mayday due to possible loss of life - RLNI respond - tow in.

Popeye
20ft sports boat
2nm from shore
wind F4-F5, waves 4-5ft
Fixed VHF/DSC
Position given

wave catches engine, no power. Securitie to coastguard. Manage to start engine. Check in with coastguard every 1/2 hour to monitor progress.

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