Marinas that are closed

[Plum]

Bradwell marina is closed. You can't even check on your boat. There is a security person at the entrance. So there is no need to debate whether you can or can't travel to check on your boat during lockdown.

 

[Old Harry]

Please they are taking non essential travel seriously

 

[johnalison]

There is some sense behind it. The security of the boats there is better with nobody at all permitted to enter than hardly anyone. The normal footfall provides a certain disincentive to potential criminals by having plenty of watching eyes.

 

[Old Bumbulum]

I'm a bit sceptical that they are allowed to prevent you accessing your boat.
They'd also be liable if you were prevented from checking it and it sank, or if the batteries became dud because you couldn't charge them I'd be putting in a liability claim too.
Ditto if a mooring line chafed through and the boat got damaged.
They're putting themselves at considerable risk, I'd have thought.
Do they have a boom/chain across the entrance to prevent waterborne movements too?

They may think they're taking non-essential travel seriously but it isn't their job to enforce it.

 

[Sticky Fingers]

I'm a bit sceptical that they are allowed to prevent you accessing your boat.
They'd also be liable if you were prevented from checking it and it sank, or if the batteries became dud because you couldn't charge them I'd be putting in a liability claim too.

Not you again. Which words out of the phrase "DO NOT LEAVE YOUR HOUSE" didn't you understand? My wife works for the NHS. She's expecting to lose dozens or possibly hundreds of her colleagues in ONE HOSPITAL to this, out of a staff of about 7000. She expects she might die. I expect I might die. My children might lose their parents to this because NHS workers are exposed to risk whilst HMG line the pockets of their backers and do SFA to provide proper help and equipment and testing and support to healthcare and frontline service providers.

Asking Joe Public to avoid travel isn't a game.

Stay at home. If your boat sinks, quite frankly I don't give a toss if my wife or indeed any worker survives as a result. If you're old and you get sick this year, you might want to rethink your view.

 

[PaulRainbow]

If you can't leave home, other than for a few specific reasons (none of which involve checking boats), why does it matter if the marina gates are locked or not ?

 

[PaulRainbow]

I'm a bit sceptical that they are allowed to prevent you accessing your boat.
They'd also be liable if you were prevented from checking it and it sank, or if the batteries became dud because you couldn't charge them I'd be putting in a liability claim too.
Ditto if a mooring line chafed through and the boat got damaged.
They're putting themselves at considerable risk, I'd have thought.
Do they have a boom/chain across the entrance to prevent waterborne movements too?

They may think they're taking non-essential travel seriously but it isn't their job to enforce it.

So, you think, post virus, you could claim for some new batteries because your marina wouldn't let you in the gates to check your batteries, despite the law saying you should not be leaving home for such things ?

The new regulations don't say anything about non-essential travel, they say you must stay at home, other than for some very specific reasons.

Hard to type any more without falling foul of forum rules.

 

[Old Bumbulum]

Thank you both for your patronising, pompous, self-righteous and totally unnecessary advice.
Had you actually troubled to read what I wrote you'd know I was merely questioning their right to deny you access to your property which by the nature of your contract with them you do have the right to access, and surmising that by doing so they are laying themselves open to liability.
I am allowed to go for a walk (once a day) for exercise, why should I not check my boat while I am doing so?

Never mind, the concept is evidently too arcane to mean anything to you.

 

[Tomahawk]

Not you again. Which words out of the phrase "DO NOT LEAVE YOUR HOUSE" didn't you understand? My wife works for the NHS. She's expecting to lose dozens or possibly hundreds of her colleagues in ONE HOSPITAL to this, out of a staff of about 7000. She expects she might die. I expect I might die. My children might lose their parents to this because NHS workers are exposed to risk whilst HMG line the pockets of their backers and do SFA to provide proper help and equipment and testing and support to healthcare and frontline service providers.
...

If your wife is concerned that she is likely to become ill because she doesn’t have adequate PPE, she should do as anyone on a building site would do is asked to do a dangerous job without adequate PPE... simply walk off the job. It will cost her her nob. but as you say, your life is more impirtant than a few quid.

 

[MoodySabre]

Bradwell marina is closed. You can't even check on your boat. There is a security person at the entrance. So there is no need to debate whether you can or can't travel to check on your boat during lockdown.

We wait with baited breath to hear about the discount we are offered as has happened do elsewhere.

 

[ianc1200]

We wait with baited breath to hear about the discount we are offered as has happened do elsewhere.

Hopefully this is the sensible approach - the discount could be put to new batteries etc.

Not that I'm going anywhere near there, but Bradwell saying there's a a chain across the entrance, isn't there a public footpath through the marina?

 

[Elemental]

If your wife is concerned that she is likely to become ill because she doesn’t have adequate PPE, she should do as anyone on a building site would do is asked to do a dangerous job without adequate PPE... simply walk off the job. It will cost her her nob. but as you say, your life is more impirtant than a few quid.

No NHS worker I know of would ever do that. It's nothing like working on a building site. My daughter works for the NHS and is a respiratory specialist. Right on the front line. Thankfully they got their PPE supply yesterday but wild horses wouldn't have dragged her away from her patients even if it never arrived.

 

[jordanbasset]

If your wife is concerned that she is likely to become ill because she doesn’t have adequate PPE, she should do as anyone on a building site would do is asked to do a dangerous job without adequate PPE... simply walk off the job. It will cost her her nob. but as you say, your life is more impirtant than a few quid.

No NHS worker I know of would ever do that. It's nothing like working on a building site. My daughter works for the NHS and is a respiratory specialist. Right on the front line. Thankfully they got their PPE supply yesterday but wild horses wouldn't have dragged her away from her patients even if it never arrived.

Agree, my wife's ex colleagues are still working in the NHS and the thought of walking out on their patients at this time is unthinkable for them. Unfortunately is is sometimes this dedication that means they can be treated not as well as they should be by the Government of the day

 

[Tomahawk]

That is the problem.. management gets away with shoddy work because they rely on front line staff to cover for their ineptitude.

 

[Tomahawk]

Hopefully this is the sensible approach - the discount could be put to new batteries etc.

Not that I'm going anywhere near there, but Bradwell saying there's a a chain across the entrance, isn't there a public footpath through the marina?

Indeed yes.
The problem being there is no where to park in the vicinity from which to access the public footpath. So unless you live in Bradwell Waterside, you haven't got much by way of a justification for walking along the footpath.

 

[Sticky Fingers]

If your wife is concerned that she is likely to become ill because she doesn’t have adequate PPE, she should do as anyone on a building site would do is asked to do a dangerous job without adequate PPE... simply walk off the job. It will cost her her nob. but as you say, your life is more impirtant than a few quid.

No NHS worker I know of would ever do that. It's nothing like working on a building site. My daughter works for the NHS and is a respiratory specialist. Right on the front line. Thankfully they got their PPE supply yesterday but wild horses wouldn't have dragged her away from her patients even if it never arrived.

That's right. She won't, and wouldn't. Part of her leadership role is inspiring the extraordinary in others. I'm incredibly proud of her. And scared for her.

 

[johnalison]

We wait with baited breath to hear about the discount we are offered as has happened do elsewhere.

I'm worried about your mouth odour. What bait do you use? Lugworms?

 

[Sticky Fingers]

I'm worried about your mouth odour. What bait do you use? Lugworms?

That's excellent Raised a chuckle.

 

[Cotillion]

In case some people need reminding you fckiung boat and how much cash refund you think you are entitled to from your marina is irrelevant. People are dying.
STAY AT HOME!

 

[Bru]

And it couldn't be clearer than the unequivocal statement from the Secretary of State just now ...

"This is not advice, this is an instruction. Stay at home" followed by the very clear and clearly limited reasons why you can go out

There's simply no excuse for not following the instructions and no amount of special pleading will justify not doing so