Marinas that are closed

[Daydream believer]

We wait with baited breath to hear about the discount we are offered as has happened do elsewhere.

Quite honestly, I would not offer discounts if I ran Bradwell marina ( yes, I know I do not!!) & I do not know any valid reason why they should. If your boat is trapped when it may normally leave for a cheaper alternative, then that may be a reason to negotiate a rate equivalent to an annual rate rather than a high visitors rate. Perhaps a lower rate. I expect a number of holders will spin a yarn about how they fully intended to go somewhere at a cost of a couple of pounds a month. I expect that the owners are a bit wise to things like that.
But like you I am a regular berth holder. Currently I am on the hard. But I have not been "trapped" due to any action by the marina & I accept the situation.
My boat is in a safe environment.
For what reason should I be "entitled" to a reduction in fees?

 

[MoodySabre]

For what reason should I be "entitled" to a reduction in fees?

We pay a fee for the facilities of a full service marina. It is not.
I'm not really expecting it even though some other marinas have acknowledged it. I sent them a friendly and polite email.......
Annual fee due 1st April. A short delay to await their response. It makes not a jot of difference fortunately.

 

[Stork_III]

And it couldn't be clearer than the unequivocal statement from the Secretary of State just now ...

"This is not advice, this is an instruction. Stay at home" followed by the very clear and clearly limited reasons why you can go out

There's simply no excuse for not following the instructions and no amount of special pleading will justify not doing so

Whilst I don't disagree with the legal instruction to stay at home unless...... I do object to Instructions not covered by a legal basis. Like "only one exercise a day". that is not the law, except in Wales where the Assembly added it to their version of the Health Regulation 2020, the other three countries don't have that as a legal requirement despite the BBC and others repeating it.

 

[PaulRainbow]

If your marina has provided the berth they said they would, it's not their fault if you can't go to the boat. Even those marinas that have locked the gates are still paying staff to keep an eye on boats and provide security. They will lose out on all sorts of income, chandlery, brokers fees, pubs, restaurants, lift outs, yard work etc. Doesn't seen fair they should give a discount too, IMO.

Perhaps we should hope that our favourite marina hasn't gone tits up due to the restrictions, or that they don't have to increase fees next year to cover this years losses ?

 

[Flynnbarr]

We pay a fee for the facilities of a full service marina. It is not.
I'm not really expecting it even though some other marinas have acknowledged it. I sent them a friendly and polite email.......
Annual fee due 1st April. A short delay to await their response. It makes not a jot of difference fortunately.

I‘d tell you to sling your hook.
From your picture you look like an older gentleman?....and you say you would like a discount even though you don’t need one.....
As one of the vulnerable groups we are all trying to protect you won’t mind if when/if we come out the other side of this that we ask you for an extremely large donation to help rebuild the economy?
All on a day when 684 people died including 2 nurses who leave 6 children without a mother......
I know this part of the forum likes to think of itself as the friendly forum but seriously you need to give your head a wobble.

 

[Daydream believer]

We pay a fee for the facilities of a full service marina. It is not.

Roger, Not trying to wind you up here, only engage in friendly debate
But what service does the marina agree to provide within the annual fee?

I have not read the contract- I expect I will if you challenge me , if only for the debate
You get a berth - which they are supplying. They have met the principle side of the contract, have they not?
The only" free" items are intermittent shore power- you get unplugged every night, if you leave your boat & have not paid an annual fee
Water supply. Free use of a toilet block & somewhere to park.
In fact if some pay late, Bradwell should be entitled to an additional fee ---- Now could you justify a reason why they should not charge that one???

Everything else is at extra cost, ie haul out, or to use the bar, where you have to pay for drinks & meals. ( you can go round the corner but they own the pub as well!!)
The difference now is that you cannot access your boat. But that is due to gov't restrictions. No fault of theirs & if they allowed holders to wander around running their hands down the ramp handrails, handling power points or opening wc doors etc they would be acting in an irresponsible manner.
I have already been told on local Facebook, that the police visited Bradwell & asked them to close. So they are not being unreasonable. Whether that is the law is irrelevant. I am not interested in that debate. They have been asked, so they have complied- simple.

So like most marinas round the country Bradwell really have no reason to refund ordinary berth holders any money. (For those trapped there may be a different debate but that was not the core of your argument.)
Or can you give a valid reason that they should - other than charity- In which case , if they want to be charitable, I would rather it went to the air ambulance & no disrespect to yourself

 

[MoodySabre]

I‘d tell you to sling your hook.
From your picture you look like an older gentleman?....and you say you would like a discount even though you don’t need one.....
As one of the vulnerable groups we are all trying to protect you won’t mind if when/if we come out the other side of this that we ask you for an extremely large donation to help rebuild the economy?
All on a day when 684 people died including 2 nurses who leave 6 children without a mother......
I know this part of the forum likes to think of itself as the friendly forum but seriously you need to give your head a wobble.

I only observed that some marinas have offered a discount - I don't expect Bradwell to.
Having worked for 42 years I have contributed plenty to the economy and thankfully in my retirement I still do. We have all being paying too little tax for a long time and the chickens have come home to roost. Hopefully the country and individuals will get their future priorities right.
No head wobbling required here - if you knew me and my concerns for others, including a very vulnerable daughter with major health issues who has to spend 9 or 10 hours in hospital every week, then you'd have known that.
I'm not old am I Daydream Believer? We are both young 73 year olds.
Stay safe.

 

[Flynnbarr]

You and your family take care and also stay safe Mr Sabre.

 

[shaunksb]

I am allowed to go for a walk (once a day) for exercise, why should I not check my boat while I am doing so?

Never mind, the concept is evidently too arcane to mean anything to you.

Because if you go then I'd want to go too, and everyone else.

What would happen then?

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[Marmalade]

Because if you go then I'd want to go too, and everyone else.

What would happen then?

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If everyone observed the rules about staying at least 2m from anyone else - absolutely nothing. I think that's the point.

 

[shaunksb]

If everyone observed the rules about staying at least 2m from anyone else - absolutely nothing. I think that's the point.

So holding on to the handrail down to the pontoons, opening the pontoon gates, using the loo’s, keying in your gate code and having the staff there to facilitate you?

None of that would help the virus to spread?

Bad point...

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[Daydream believer]

Add borrowing my ladder without asking & my having to go & hunt it down to get it back