Leebowing

[jimi]

on Sunday with a fcast N f3 coming back from Cherbourg should I consider doing a bit of leebowing and, if so, potentially how much time will it save me?

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[Magic_Sailor]

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[doris]

With only a F3 the problem is a shortage of wind. Lee bowing will increase the apparant wind several knots and squeeze you forward. It will not shorten the distance sailed through the water .

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[tome]

Dunno, but with all those boats about you might need to do a bit of el-bowing to get out.

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[StugeronSteve]

Personally I always insist on the crew bowing over the lee rail, I find that allowing them to bow over the windward rail only results in a messy cockpit. I really wouldn't be too concerned though, because a F3 northerly is unlikely to produce the sort of conditions that will necessitate visits to the rail. Of course, you could insist on STUGERON all round and avoid the dilemma altogether.

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[Twister_Ken]

A) Yes
B) About 2 rounds worth in the Harbour Lights

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[bedouin]

Enough time to make the difference between getting a hot meal and a few pints, and missing closing time /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

With a Spring tide it could make 2-3 hrs difference to the crossing, with neaps maybe an hour or so.

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[cameronke]

Hello Jimi

What is leebowing?

Regards
Cameron

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[StugeronSteve]

Keeping the tidal flow on the lee bow of the boat. Only works with a tide running across the wind direction of course. Keeps the boat up on to the wind, increases apparent wind speed, minimises leeway and a multitude of other benefits.

<hr width=100% size=1>Think I'll draw some little rabbits on my head, from a distance they might be mistaken for hairs.

 

[jimi]

As I understand it and please correct me if I'm wrong. when sailing towards an upwind objective in a cross-tide mutiple-tide-period situation it is best to keep the tide on the lee bow (ie tack when tide changes) so that distance from objective is minimised and full advantage can be taken of any wind shifts as well as maximising the true wind relative to the water (or apparent wind relative to the ground) if that makes sense?

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[claymore]

So are you saying that when you sail back, if the tide is running eastwards, you will be on starboard tack and if it is running westwards you will be on Port tack?
And may I ask what you will do should you meet up with your old friends the Harridans when the tide is running westwards as you will be on Port tack and if I remember rightly, last time you met them the tide must have been running eastwards as you were on starboard - not that it seemed to make much difference to them?
Furthermore - and I have shared telephonic communications with Para regarding this - if all the boats on this jaunt sail in line astern, do you not think you are making an easy target for some container vessel that is bound out from Europoort
and what odds do you think are being offered in the bars of Rotterdam at the moment?
Finally - I assume that if you are sailing and leebowing then should a container vessel come along - they will have to keep clear and you will make the appropriate signals?

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[MarkJohnson]

Not sure what the tidal rate is in the middle of the channel, but the extra knot or so of tide, thus wind will undoubtly add some speed.

But reckon that if the journey takes you 12 hours (60 nm?) any advantage in the lee bowing in the first 6 hours will be cancelled in the 2nd by the tide pushing you away from the wind.

With luck the wind will change direction to suit!

Racing boys might take it seriously tho'



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[NigeCh]

Now listen here, dork

I'm the king of leebowing and it only works as long as you're COG is 90 degrees to wind over tide ... YUK !!!!!




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[jimi]

Re: Now listen here, dork

knew that would get you out the cellar ;-)

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[Twister_Ken]

>Racing boys might take it seriously tho'<

Too right they do. Only reason not to lee bow is if you thoink you're sailing towards a lifting shift.

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[NigeCh]

It did !!!!!!!!!!!

Just how can you leebow when the wind's all awa ??? (I'll be stuck in Tomich as there's a high pressure coming in for Glens Strathfarrer, Cannich, Affric an all)

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[brianhumber]

Re: F3? & October Jolly?

early days yet to bank on a F3, but I thought you were certain to get at least a F5 whenever you ventured across the puddle!

Shame I'm tied up this weekend so hope everybody enjoys the fun. What about an October date for those of us otherwise stuffed for getting in some sea miles this time?

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[LadyInBed]

With a N f3 coming back from Cherbourg, I will be Lee motorsailing /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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[StugeronSteve]

Re: F3? & October Jolly?

Hi Brian. Like you I am unable to go this weekend (grrr), and am thinking of a consolation jaunt, probably w/e 2-3/10 or 16-17/10. Might be able to fix up a mini jolly to somewhere or other.

Steve.

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[alahol2]

Re: F3? & October Jolly?

Theyr are giving West 5 so maybe you won't need to bother?

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