Lasizas Stern Light

[lustyd]

Might be worth replying and asking them to confirm if it’s actually a navigation light or just a transom light. If navigation I’d expect them to have it listed with certification on their website.
Seems odd that they acknowledge it’s theirs but don’t list it anywhere

 

[S04]

I agree, I've replied asking if they have any documentation that relates to the light. I assume that because it doesn't appear on their website means it's not a current product.

 

[NormanS]

Might be worth replying and asking them to confirm if it’s actually a navigation light or just a transom light. If navigation I’d expect them to have it listed with certification on their website.
Seems odd that they acknowledge it’s theirs but don’t list it anywhere

What's a "transom" light?

 

[lustyd]

What's a "transom" light?

It's a light used on the transom of motorboats either for decoration or simply to light the swim platform/steps. I used transom here as that's what the sales blurb used for this light on another site, and because "stern light" can mean many things, only one of which is an accredited navigation light. The documentation on that site also had the angle as 120 degrees as I said in the thread above.

 

[S04]

Lalizas have come back to me again with the specs for this light. I cannot see anything in the attached document to suggest that this really is a nav light that is compliant with the regulations. There is no mention of Colregs compliance and the arc of visibility is wrong thus supporting lustyd's view as far as I can see.

 

[NormanS]

If the seller is marketing this light as a stern navigation light, as specified in post No 1, but it doesn't have the required angle of visibility, they are wrong, and need to be told.

 

[lustyd]

Ebay doesn’t work like that, sadly.

 

[Shaz77]

Well, you’re (S04) talking as if you’re the OP (SteveIOW). If not then apologies and good of you to raise a support ticket on his behalf.

They say it's good for the soul to be wrong.

 

[Malish]

Ebay doesn’t work like that, sadly.

Describing it as a navigation light when it isn't compliant with the normal expectation looks like 'deception/fraud' to me. Ebay will be very interested if you lodge a complaint which is not resolved to your satisfaction

 

[SteveIOW]

Just to wind up this thread: Supplier has accepted that this Lasizas light is NOT a navigation light. I have returned it and received a refund.
Thank you all for your posts on this matter.

 

[penberth3]

Describing it as a navigation light when it isn't compliant with the normal expectation looks like 'deception/fraud' to me. Ebay will be very interested if you lodge a complaint which is not resolved to your satisfaction

Deception/fraud!!! Calm down dear. If you've done internet shopping you'll know items always have a string of nouns and adjectives in the description. It can help the search, after that 'buyer beware' applies.

 

[Refueler]

Describing it as a navigation light when it isn't compliant with the normal expectation looks like 'deception/fraud' to me. Ebay will be very interested if you lodge a complaint which is not resolved to your satisfaction

Problem of course is in terminology .... what constitutes a Navigation Light ? But if the wording states a specific Navigation Light such as Port Side Light ... etc - then agreed - the term Navigation Light becomes specific.
I see the first post - has wording of Stern Light appended to Navigation Light - therefore if it does not angular sector as required - then its a false description.

Do not forget that Navigation light as a simple term can mean any light used in navigation ... such as the all round white of a small boat ... question is where is the line drawn ?

I cannot help but feel the Retailer itself may have overstepped Descriptive term for the light rather than Lazilas themselves ? But applaud Lazilas accepting and refunding.