Sticky Fingers
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But no loo...?
It’s time to buy my next boat
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Lightwave395
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Goody
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No, I’m only planning to be sailing her for 3 or 4 hours at a time
dunedin
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Then surly a change from a Squib to the Europa would be a change in the wrong direction - as they both share the same small hull but the Europa sacrifices cockpit space for a tiny cabin.
Giving a budget would be important, as lots of great boats but prices vary a lot between very old boats and great more modern boats like the Hawk 20
Goody
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Thanks, but correct me if I’m wrong, don’t they have toilets? I really don’t want a boat with a toilet, sink or galley. I have no maintenance skills so the fewer things that can go wrong the better ?
Wansworth
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Could be caught short!
Goody
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I’d love to find a Hawk 20 for around £2k but there’re about as rare as hens teeth ?
Goody
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I’ll make sure there’s a bucket onboard for any emergencies ?
Greenheart
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Buying a boat which has a loo, then removing it and closing the seacocks, may be substantially less bother than tracking down a design which specifically excluded a loo. Also, in due course when it comes to selling, a loo may attract many who would have been discouraged by its absence.
The Westerly Nimrod is a neat little cruiser with minimal accommodation and a big cockpit. Not a bilge keeler, but easily beached with a fully retracting lifting keel. And, the simplest possible cabin - not a lavatory in sight.
The Westerly Nimrod is a neat little cruiser with minimal accommodation and a big cockpit. Not a bilge keeler, but easily beached with a fully retracting lifting keel. And, the simplest possible cabin - not a lavatory in sight.
Wansworth
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You could mount a lavac on the foredeck!Buying a boat which has a loo, then removing it and closing the seacocks, may be substantially less bother than tracking down a design which specifically excluded a loo. Also, in due course when it comes to selling, a loo may attract many who would have been discouraged by its absence.
The Westerly Nimrod is a neat little cruiser with minimal accommodation and a big cockpit. Not a bilge keeler, but easily beached with a fully retracting lifting keel. And, the simplest possible cabin - not a lavatory in sight.
fredrussell
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Can’t you just think of the heads as storage space? You could put a chart table in there, not many 20 foot boats have that! You could then plan your route whilst clearing your chute, so to speak.
Lightwave395
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agree with dancrane, find a boat you like, take the toilet, sink and anything else out, you'll probably get £50 for sea toilet on ebay
Goody
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I just looked at a Nimrod online and it had the traveller in the middle of the cockpit which was one of the features that I didn’t want; see OPBuying a boat which has a loo, then removing it and closing the seacocks, may be substantially less bother than tracking down a design which specifically excluded a loo. Also, in due course when it comes to selling, a loo may attract many who would have been discouraged by its absence.
The Westerly Nimrod is a neat little cruiser with minimal accommodation and a big cockpit. Not a bilge keeler, but easily beached with a fully retracting lifting keel. And, the simplest possible cabin - not a lavatory in sight.
Goody
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Thanks but doesn’t appeal
Kelpie
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I really don't get this 'no toilet' thing either.
Is it the idea of a smelly yet unnecessary contraption sitting in the corner?
Is it the space it takes up?
Is it the holes in the hull?
Is it the idea of a smelly yet unnecessary contraption sitting in the corner?
Is it the space it takes up?
Is it the holes in the hull?
Greenheart
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I hadn't forgotten your preference...see Nimrods below, the result of five short minutes' searching online...
...I don't say you ought to have a Nimrod, but you definitely ought not to be deterred by other owners' different layouts.
These things are easily changed, adapted, re-organised, jettisoned or changed back. Your boat, your choice.
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Goody
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It's the first and third point
Goody
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ok point takenI hadn't forgotten your preference...see Nimrods below, the result of five short minutes' searching online...
...I don't say you ought to have a Nimrod, but you definitely ought not to be deterred by other owners' different layouts.
These things are easily changed, adapted, re-organised, jettisoned or changed back. Your boat, your choice.
........I should emphasize that I'm about as handy as Frank Spencer when it comes to do anything practical. i just want a simple, convenient day sailer, i.e. roller furling, lazy jacks, sail bag, all lines to the cockpit, traveler out of the way etc. i just want to relax, enjoy and sail in relative comfort and ease.
Kelpie
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Thanks for clarifying. Have you had a bad experience with a marine toilet in the past? They don't bite. Really there's just a bowl and a pump. Whip the whole thing out in half an hour tops, unscrew the hose tails and fit blanking plugs. You could even remove the handles from the valves if you're feeling paranoid. Then enjoy all that lovely space you've just freed up!
A friend of mine did the opposite- kept the toilet but removed the walls around it. Meant that he gained an extra seat in the cabin. There were certain downsides of course...
Goody
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Thanks for that.......fair point
