ashtead
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Might a formula one be rather cramped Compared to other suggestions ? I seem to recall they were quite sporty but little room for social distancing below when spending the night on board.
It’s time to buy my next boat
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Greenheart
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As usual, it's much easier to suggest boats that we as contributors like, rather than observing the requirements stated. Bilge keels were requested, so presumably Goody is tired of either dry-sailing his Squib, or keeping it on a deep-water mooring. A centreboarder like the Hunter Formula may not be suitable for the drying mooring he has in mind.
A bilge-keel Corribee may be worth looking at in terms of cost, size, keels and minimal cabin. It really is minimal though - there's barely sitting headroom - but if it is to be used mainly as a dayboat as originally stated, the cabin is ample for dry storage and an occasional lie down. Then again, if the Valiant's cabin was too low, the Corribee's will be as well.
It would be useful to have a firm idea whether as initially stated, it will be day-sailed, and primarily needs a roomy cockpit, or if space in the cabin really matters. At 20ft long, you can't easily have both (you can rarely find either!)
A bilge-keel Corribee may be worth looking at in terms of cost, size, keels and minimal cabin. It really is minimal though - there's barely sitting headroom - but if it is to be used mainly as a dayboat as originally stated, the cabin is ample for dry storage and an occasional lie down. Then again, if the Valiant's cabin was too low, the Corribee's will be as well.
It would be useful to have a firm idea whether as initially stated, it will be day-sailed, and primarily needs a roomy cockpit, or if space in the cabin really matters. At 20ft long, you can't easily have both (you can rarely find either!)
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stav
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Something different?
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Matelot 20 for sale UK, Matelot boats for sale, Matelot used boat sales, Matelot Sailing Yachts For Sale Matelot 20 - Apollo Duck
There is also a more expensive one but no sails, Matelot 21 for sale UK, Matelot boats for sale, Matelot used boat sales, Matelot Commercial Vessels For Sale Matelot 21 on Trailer - Apollo Duck
Happy hunting
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peteK
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A Leisure 20 is a well built boat.
PeteCooper
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Fantastic little boat - sail superbly and very seaworthy.
Kelpie
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And, as I'm a bit surprised nobody has pointed out yet, should feel eerily familiar to the OP.
Goody
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Thanks for the reply. It’s definitely only to be a day sailer and a roomy cockpit is preferred over a roomy cabin; what did you think on my suggestion of a Hunter Europa?
Goody
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Thanks for the links...........I’m always a bit wary when they say ‘requires tlc’, when really they might mean ‘project’......I’m looking for one ready to sail
Goody
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Goody
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Thanks ?
Goody
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Fantasie 19
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Hurley 20... clearly... 
peteK
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Just remove the toilet and cooker if you dont want them,but most boats around 20ft have them.
Boathook
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Hawk 20 with a cuddy but possibly beyond your budget.
Goody
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Thanks I’ll take a lookHurley 20... clearly...
Goody
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yeah good call but mmm probably out of budget
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Greenheart
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I'm afraid I don't know the design, but they seem to be very well-thought-of. I think all Hunters are.
But if you really do primarily want a dayboat, are you only looking at cabin boats because they have the bilge keels you need?
Sorry if I have missed one of your replies, but is the question of mooring, the reason you plan to change from the Squib?
Something like a Drascombe is a wonderful, characterful, versatile dayboat, able to dry out at low tide, and with a cockpit that's most of the length of the boat. And practical for camping if summer days leave you wanting to stay aboard overnight.
Don't let yourself be distracted by items like lazyjacks and genoa furler. You can fit them yourself in a few hours. I did...
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Goody
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Hurley 20... clearly...
Thanks for the link but the boat has a toilet. A toilets a big no-no for me.
Goody
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Thanks. The reason I’m thinking of moving away from the Squib is I want the comfort of a cockpit and a cabin for somewhere to hide when it rains and to store things, which I guess would rule out the Drascombe unfortunately. My preference is for comfort and convenienceI'm afraid I don't know the design, but they seem to be very well-thought-of. I think all Hunters are.
But if you really do primarily want a dayboat, are you only looking at cabin boats because they have the bilge keels you need?
Sorry if I have missed one of your replies, but is the question of mooring, the reason you plan to change from the Squib?
Something like a Drascombe is a wonderful, characterful, versatile dayboat, able to dry out at low tide, and with a cockpit that's most of the length of the boat. And practical for camping if summer days leave you wanting to stay aboard overnight.
Don't let yourself be distracted by items like lazyjacks and genoa furler. You can fit them yourself in a few hours. I did...
