Hunter Legend 36

[Bav34]

Not sure how to read that. Are you saying that new prices are falling to (perceived) second-hand values or that (perceived) second-hand values are climbing to new prices?

I prefer the second option as according to Yachting Monthly September 2008 a new Bav 34 is £80,431.

I like that a lot /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

 

[photodog]

You have had some great responses..... its good to see both sides being represented.. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I will add just three words..... Composite Rudder Stocks.


F2 (Hunter 45) sank whilst crossing the Atlantic after her composite rudder stock failed........

 

[photodog]

New prices are way up this year.... I was lookig today at the new 34., and you are talking 85-90k when kitted out....

2 Years ago when I looked at the Finngulf 33, I could get her kitted out for 95k or so....

Used prices were down last year, but seem to be going up again, at least for my boat... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Refueler]

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............. you don't find many Legend owners giving up the Legend for another make.........

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Excuse me for saying that there are many Legends of all sizes and age for sale out there and many don't move for long time.
I warned my pal that if he bought the L36, selling on may be a problem later. Sorry to say it - but that is exactly what he's found. In 2 yrs on the market - he's had no offers or calls.

I don't have any personal grudge against the Legend, I just report what I have seen. It's not like some who are just passing on chinese whispers !

The boat serves a purpose - introducing a larger boat to the market for less money. Bav's did the same, not catering for Charter Market as another claims - (Charter markets cottoned on to the financial side of having Bav's).
If you want a boat that's comfortable for family and general coastal cruising - then fine.
I don't agree it's a blue-water boat despite all the RCD's and claims of those who've sailed them ARC etc. But they can do it.

Personally - I still prefer a more conventional boat ... Jeanneau etc. if into AWB's ...

 

[steve6367]

When I purchased my 33, I missed a few examples as they were sold by the time I got there - I suspect your friend needs to adjust his price is he has had no calls.

I have been very pleased with the boat so far - it is good for its intended purpose. If I want to cross the Atlantic I will spend significantly more money on a different sort of boat, or fly.

Steve

 

[Refueler]

There are examples of secondhand boats dropping prices more than in the past and also new boats being sold of to clear stocks.
Recent bank difficulties with a number of boat builders have meant cheaper new deals - ok you have to look for them, but they are there.
The Bav & Legends are bad examples IMHO to use for price INCREASE ...

My pal paid £114K delivered, added another £5K of gear to it to bring to reasonable inventory. He was still way of the mark compared to the Jeanneau 37, fully kitted out incl. radar etc. I pointed him to which seller accepted an offer of £72K.

Today both boats would be on market for similar money - the L36 at 4yrs old, the Jeanneau at 7 - 8yrs old. Sorry but I know which one I would buy.

I have a number of friends who are Boat Brokers / Dealers and they are reluctant to take on certain makes due to extended selling times. But other makes they find turn over quickly ... Jeanneau, Beneteau are good examples.

Of course pricing and inventory makes a big difference to selling on. As I remarked before - many people remember what they paid and then think they can command high resale price. With money tight, credit crunch etc. - those days are long gone and will be a long time before they return ... IMHO.

 

[John Hayward]

Legend 36

I am strongly considering buying a Legend 36 but am having trouble finding any reviews on the type. Can anyone help?
Does anyone have one who can give me an honest assessment?

Thanks,

Ian A

In 2010 I did the round the island race in my bilge keel Legend 36 - out of 1750 entries we came a very credible 714th - with no spinnaker, cruising Shute or genoa pole - beating many superior boats in the process.

It's a cruiser for sure - but one with 'legs' and does have a fair turn of speed from a big sail area. I've owned a variety of yachts 30 to 40 foot and this one is on Balance the best offering comfort, space and practical easy handling.

 

[John Hayward]

I guess it all depends on what you want it for..... The 36 is a solid respectable well built cruiser - which can and does perform well in most conditions. Few boats of this length are as comfortable or commodious at sea or in the marina. It is build from modern materials - no wood to oil etc. The rig (mine is in mast) is very easy to sail in any condition.

I've got caught out in a F9 (unpleasant) and survived. I think the boat did better than me.

I've raced around the Island (2010) and came a respectable 1/3 of the way down the field at the end of the race - with no shute, spinnaker or genoa pole. And with bilge keels (which seem to make little difference and might even make her stiffer than a fin version).

In 3 years of ownership nothing has gone wrong or broken. I can't ask for better than that. I have owned boats 30 - 40 foot and chartered much bigger but can honestly say that if you recognise that every boat is a compromise in one way or another, this current 36 is the best boat for 2 people to cruise in - and we have done the South Coast, Channel Islands, East Coast up to the Deben and Holland. It's been a breeze!