NealB
Well-known member
Phew.......so you think I can afford her then, as long as we don't go racing!!
Thanks for putting my mind at rest!
How much to have a yard maintain a 35 foot 'classic?
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Phew.......so you think I can afford her then, as long as we don't go racing!!
Thanks for putting my mind at rest!
chinita
Well-known member
My father has a Rolls Royce. He did have to ask the price. He runs it for about 200 miles a year and that keeps him happy. He spends the rest of the time cleaning and polishing.
He has always told me that, if you need to make a decision, put numbers to it and the result will always be right.
What a hypocrite!
He gets the same pleasure from his old Roller as I do from my old Vertue. Neither of us put numbers to it before we bought.
Stop fannying around Neal. You are a long time dead.
He has always told me that, if you need to make a decision, put numbers to it and the result will always be right.
What a hypocrite!
He gets the same pleasure from his old Roller as I do from my old Vertue. Neither of us put numbers to it before we bought.
Stop fannying around Neal. You are a long time dead.
Seanick
Member
Hi Neal, I replied to this when you first posted, but my post dissapeared into the eather!
We look after about 18 classics from 18 to 42', doing everthing from collecting from the mooring, everthing in between, and putting her back.
Its nigh on impossible to put an exact figure on it, as each year most boats do a little extra like repaint the heads one year, or a cockpit strip the next.
A 30'er bill goes something like this..
Collect from mooring
Service and winterise engine (done when bought back in)
Oversee haul out and mast down. Undress mast and cover when in rack
Fit ridge pole and cover
Spring.
Prep and gloss topsides
Prep and two coats external exposed brightwork (covered bright work every other year)
Prep and varnish mast (every other year)
Antifoul two coats Seajet
Interior valet and bilge scrub
Recommision engine, fill water tank
Oversee mast step, fit boom and bend on sails. set up rig.
Sail to mooring (well, we have to check every thing works ok!)
On average that costs between£1800 and 3k. Add on the yards haul out and winter storage package, about £800.
Our hourly rate here in Chichester is a very competitive £28/hr plus VAT
Have a look at our website for some pics.
The boats we have looked after for the long term take less and less work as the years go by, and so the bill is less. They also look better and better!
We look after about 18 classics from 18 to 42', doing everthing from collecting from the mooring, everthing in between, and putting her back.
Its nigh on impossible to put an exact figure on it, as each year most boats do a little extra like repaint the heads one year, or a cockpit strip the next.
A 30'er bill goes something like this..
Collect from mooring
Service and winterise engine (done when bought back in)
Oversee haul out and mast down. Undress mast and cover when in rack
Fit ridge pole and cover
Spring.
Prep and gloss topsides
Prep and two coats external exposed brightwork (covered bright work every other year)
Prep and varnish mast (every other year)
Antifoul two coats Seajet
Interior valet and bilge scrub
Recommision engine, fill water tank
Oversee mast step, fit boom and bend on sails. set up rig.
Sail to mooring (well, we have to check every thing works ok!)
On average that costs between£1800 and 3k. Add on the yards haul out and winter storage package, about £800.
Our hourly rate here in Chichester is a very competitive £28/hr plus VAT
Have a look at our website for some pics.
The boats we have looked after for the long term take less and less work as the years go by, and so the bill is less. They also look better and better!
NealB
Well-known member
Mr Seanick......thank you so much for a very illuminating post....very, very helpful!
I particularly like the sentences I quote above....very much the same logic as that put forward in Weston Martyr's 'The £200 millionaire' ie the more he spent on top quality gear, the cheaper his boating became in the long term (I first read that book when I was about 14 yo....it had a very profound effect on me!).
NealB
Well-known member
Mr Seanick....I feel as if I should know.....but, go on, please give me a link or a clue so I can see your lovely pics!
Seanick
Member
NealB
Well-known member
Aha....THE Nick Gates, no less.......I really, really should have known!
Thanks again.
Rum_Pirate
Well-known member
Sounds cheap at Sold Price: $9,100 in California. 
35 ft Wooden Sloop, English built 1954, Laurent Giles
This boat was built in Emsworth england in 1954, it was designed by renowned yacht designers Robert clark. It has mahogany planks on oak frames and is copper riveted. It has the old iron floors (frame braces) that are rusting a bit but solid. The cabin & toe rails are teak. The original teak deck has been covered by a new marine ply & fiberglass deck. I purchased it in San Francisco in 1999. The most recent survey was done in 2001 (available on request). The hull is in excellent condition. Rigging is in good shape, all are backed up with stainless plates. Mainsail & jib are in good condition. Has a small storm jib. Most of the interior has been rebuilt, new upholstered seating. There is still some work to be done to have a completely functional interior. The stove shown in the photo is no longer aboard. I installed a new 20hp kubota engine recently ($7,000), w/new motor mounts and a new prop, the engine should serviced, seems to be running a little hot. The engine has 38 hours on it. She has a gorgeous teak interior, with rosewood floors. The teak on the exterior has weathered away and needs to be refinished, The mast is spruce and was new when I bought it. It is a solid sailing vessel currently moored in Santa Barbara. Sleeps 2 in the forward cabin, two in the main cabin and 1 bunk under the nav station. The electrical system was replaced in 2000. and it has a new fuel tank. Comes with a gps chartplotter, autopilot and miscellaneous gear. This is a great boat for anyone into wooden boats who is interested in restoring it, It needs mainly aesthetic work done. There are some photos from about 2001 and more current ones are dated.
http://boatslog.com/asp/Item.asp?soldid=7324&make=Aero+marine&theday=8/9/2010
35 ft Wooden Sloop, English built 1954, Laurent Giles
This boat was built in Emsworth england in 1954, it was designed by renowned yacht designers Robert clark. It has mahogany planks on oak frames and is copper riveted. It has the old iron floors (frame braces) that are rusting a bit but solid. The cabin & toe rails are teak. The original teak deck has been covered by a new marine ply & fiberglass deck. I purchased it in San Francisco in 1999. The most recent survey was done in 2001 (available on request). The hull is in excellent condition. Rigging is in good shape, all are backed up with stainless plates. Mainsail & jib are in good condition. Has a small storm jib. Most of the interior has been rebuilt, new upholstered seating. There is still some work to be done to have a completely functional interior. The stove shown in the photo is no longer aboard. I installed a new 20hp kubota engine recently ($7,000), w/new motor mounts and a new prop, the engine should serviced, seems to be running a little hot. The engine has 38 hours on it. She has a gorgeous teak interior, with rosewood floors. The teak on the exterior has weathered away and needs to be refinished, The mast is spruce and was new when I bought it. It is a solid sailing vessel currently moored in Santa Barbara. Sleeps 2 in the forward cabin, two in the main cabin and 1 bunk under the nav station. The electrical system was replaced in 2000. and it has a new fuel tank. Comes with a gps chartplotter, autopilot and miscellaneous gear. This is a great boat for anyone into wooden boats who is interested in restoring it, It needs mainly aesthetic work done. There are some photos from about 2001 and more current ones are dated.
http://boatslog.com/asp/Item.asp?soldid=7324&make=Aero+marine&theday=8/9/2010
NealB
Well-known member
Rum Pirate...a good looking boat at a good price...but it looks like she's sold, plus she's in California.
I'm also a bit confused by her pedigree ie is she the work of Laurent Giles or Robert Clark?
Anyway, not much use for me!!
I'm also a bit confused by her pedigree ie is she the work of Laurent Giles or Robert Clark?
Anyway, not much use for me!!
Lyulph Hesling
New member
It so happens that I worked out my Sunbeam cost about £5 per mile last year. I did a lot of miles, and all my own mantenance too, and it does NOT include the bar bills!
NealB
Well-known member
Ah yes.....bar bills.....now that is a totally separate cost centre!