How many other folk feel the same?

[Greenheart]

Quite so - but it's easy to tell if one half is the driving axle in a relationship's activities, while the other is only trailing.

It doesn't only apply to sailing - but it's significant here because you need to feel really passionate about sailing to overlook the many discomforts and detractions which yachtsmen usually make light of, in pursuit of a really great day's or season's sailing.

If you were indifferent to the thrill of achieving that extra half-knot, or to the interest of navigation questions or, dare I say, anchor performance - then the whole boating business might be something you'd wave goodbye to with relief.

 

[Mudisox]

Better than watching re runs of Vera or Miss Marples, or going to a book group mind you. Mind you we do dance together, ..........well did before Corovorus.
SWMBO likes water to come hot out of a tap, and avoids bouncy water! Canals preferred, France preferred- takes the ferry to cross the Channel.

 

[C08]

May be easier to offload wife than the boat currently! Nice boat but the ad glosses over the hull construction i.e ply/epoxy, strip plank grp/epoxy, red cedar strip/epoxy or GRP or whatever?

 

[Greenheart]

Would need to know about the wife's construction standard and upkeep, too.

 

[stephen_h]

May be easier to offload wife than the boat currently! Nice boat but the ad glosses over the hull construction i.e ply/epoxy, strip plank grp/epoxy, red cedar strip/epoxy or GRP or whatever?

They are foam core GRP above waterline and solid GRp below.

There is a wheelchair in one of the pictures...........................

 

[Greenheart]

Good luck and best possible health to them.

I always liked Woods' designs. I wanted a Strider till I decided I need a wheelhouse.

 

[Mudisox]

They are foam core GRP above waterline and solid GRp below.

There is a wheelchair in one of the pictures...........................

Surely Bickerton Bike.

 

[C08]

They are foam core GRP above waterline and solid GRp below.

There is a wheelchair in one of the pictures...........................

I stand corrected I alway thought that these Woods boats were designed to be made in strip plank, usually cedar strips epoxied then inside and out. I was not aware there were any moulds or a manufacturer?

 

[stephen_h]

I believe all of Richard Woods design can be home built but the majority of the Flica's were built by Palamos in Plymouth.

 

[macwester_kelpie]

I have a friend who start to build in Romania the ELF26 sailing catamaran. This model is light, sporty, pleasant, with decent equipment as a weekender. In the port hull there are 2 beds with storage spaces underneath and a galley with sink/stove combo. In the starboard hull there are 2 beds, a bathroom sink and a chemical toilet. The catamaran is a Richard Woods design, is class C (RCD), LAR Keels, open bridge-deck, with a generous cockpit for 6 people. It is made of fiberglass in a sandwich system with PVC foam, watertight compartments for safety. A central outboard motor Yamaha 9.9 High Thrust, Garmin Wi-Fi wind/depth instrument, Garmin 115i VHF, interior and navigation LED lights, 100 Ah deep cycle gel battery, electric windlass with Delta anchor, MARSUPIO navigation kit for 6 peoples; 2 bilge pumps .Dimensions: LOA 7.96 m.; Mainsail 27sqm, square topped fully battened; Jib 14.5sqm with UV protection and Hood jib furling system; Mast length 11 m, Boom length 3.5 m, empty weight 950 kg; Displ. to WL 1550 kg; Draft 650 mm; Headroom 1.75 m. All things fit in a single 12 m container. A first unit was delivered in Scotland.

 

[westernman]

I have a friend who start to build in Romania the ELF26 sailing catamaran. This model is light, sporty, pleasant, with decent equipment as a weekender. In the port hull there are 2 beds with storage spaces underneath and a galley with sink/stove combo. In the starboard hull there are 2 beds, a bathroom sink and a chemical toilet. The catamaran is a Richard Woods design, is class C (RCD), LAR Keels, open bridge-deck, with a generous cockpit for 6 people. It is made of fiberglass in a sandwich system with PVC foam, watertight compartments for safety. A central outboard motor Yamaha 9.9 High Thrust, Garmin Wi-Fi wind/depth instrument, Garmin 115i VHF, interior and navigation LED lights, 100 Ah deep cycle gel battery, electric windlass with Delta anchor, MARSUPIO navigation kit for 6 peoples; 2 bilge pumps .Dimensions: LOA 7.96 m.; Mainsail 27sqm, square topped fully battened; Jib 14.5sqm with UV protection and Hood jib furling system; Mast length 11 m, Boom length 3.5 m, empty weight 950 kg; Displ. to WL 1550 kg; Draft 650 mm; Headroom 1.75 m. All things fit in a single 12 m container. A first unit was delivered in Scotland.

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950kg seems very light for a 26 ft catarman. There can't be much fibre glass there.

 

[cherod]

I have a friend who start to build in Romania the ELF26 sailing catamaran. This model is light, sporty, pleasant, with decent equipment as a weekender. In the port hull there are 2 beds with storage spaces underneath and a galley with sink/stove combo. In the starboard hull there are 2 beds, a bathroom sink and a chemical toilet. The catamaran is a Richard Woods design, is class C (RCD), LAR Keels, open bridge-deck, with a generous cockpit for 6 people. It is made of fiberglass in a sandwich system with PVC foam, watertight compartments for safety. A central outboard motor Yamaha 9.9 High Thrust, Garmin Wi-Fi wind/depth instrument, Garmin 115i VHF, interior and navigation LED lights, 100 Ah deep cycle gel battery, electric windlass with Delta anchor, MARSUPIO navigation kit for 6 peoples; 2 bilge pumps .Dimensions: LOA 7.96 m.; Mainsail 27sqm, square topped fully battened; Jib 14.5sqm with UV protection and Hood jib furling system; Mast length 11 m, Boom length 3.5 m, empty weight 950 kg; Displ. to WL 1550 kg; Draft 650 mm; Headroom 1.75 m. All things fit in a single 12 m container. A first unit was delivered in Scotland.

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longer video would be good ,,, a little centre pod could easily be constructed for some added comfort while sailing .

 

[steve yates]

Quite so - but it's easy to tell if one half is the driving axle in a relationship's activities, while the other is only trailing.

It doesn't only apply to sailing - but it's significant here because you need to feel really passionate about sailing to overlook the many discomforts and detractions which yachtsmen usually make light of, in pursuit of a really great day's or season's sailing.

If you were indifferent to the thrill of achieving that extra half-knot, or to the interest of navigation questions or, dare I say, anchor performance - then the whole boating business might be something you'd wave goodbye to with relief.

Oh i dont know, all of the points in the last paragraph apply to me. But i would never wave goodbye to it. I have no real interest in day sails, I have a boat to travel and explore ( even if currently its mainly hammering and bloody painting)
Its what i love about sailing, by comparison to the hills, the seas are empty.

 

[Greenheart]

I have a boat to travel and explore ( even if currently its mainly hammering and bloody painting)

Sure. I think I was supporting the very strong impression I've always had about most couples, that madam is ambivalent at best, about the sailing part of boat owning; and entirely repelled by the maintenance, and shocked by the cost, even though she may not know the half of it.

Most of us who own boats are at least more content than unhappy, with the balance of reward-versus-burdensome maintenance...but I'm sure most women whose men own boats, would sooner he spent the same money on, for example, hotels, that she could share wholeheartedly.

To be fair, I only looked back a few posts, so I can't remember what this year-old thread was about.

Edited for the pleasure of the readership.

 

[Daydream believer]

Well you wouldn't want to marry one who wasn't would you?

When I proposed to my wife I made one thing VERY clear.
She often tells others, when they ask what she feels about my long absences.
"Marry me marry my boat"
She has always accepted that & fortunately I am able to afford a boat that suits me, & still have enough for her to have 4 or 5 long weekends, plus 2 weeks abroad, a year on golfing holidays.
It has worked well for 53 years & she does enjoy coming to places like St Peter Port & Ostend, when I stay there for afew weeks. We have also spent a lot of weeks in the Dutch canals together. However, trips to Biscay resulted in " I have had enough of this & I am going home on the next plane out of here"
I was quite pleased really, because I enjoy sailing for me, rather than others.

 

[Daydream believer]

a) Were the men who sail alone, abandoned to their pastime by fed-up wives; and

One of the thing that I noticed when I sailed around the Uk was the large number of single handed male sailors. They tended to be in smaller older boats. Many in the 24-27 ft size. From that one might understand the absence of the partner.

I got the impression that there may well have been more UK SH boats than those with partners. A balance I did not expect. Perhaps being SH, like me, we communicated more readily. Have others noticed this?
Different with foreign boats, Scandinavian, Dutch & German, of course. Most were crewed in pairs & in bigger boats, set up for longer distances..

I also notice more single handers at the start of the season, April, May early June.- particularly on the French side of the Channel. Presumably because of the colder weather, their wives stay at home.

 

[SaltIre]

Sure. I think I was supporting the very strong impression I've always had about most couples, that madam is ambivalent at best, about the sailing part of boat owning; and entirely repelled by the maintenance, and shocked by the cost, even though she doesn't know the half of it. ?

Most of us who own boats are at least more content than unhappy, with the balance of reward-versus-burdensome maintenance...but I'm sure most women whose men own boats, would sooner he spent the same money on hotels, that she could share wholeheartedly.

Bless 'em.

To be fair, I only looked back a few posts, so I can't remember what this year-old thread was about.

Why don't you ask if can change your username to The Misogynist or Misogynistic1?
Here's the link: https://forums.ybw.com/index.php?threads/user-name-changes.327548/

 

[Greenheart]

I'm curious about what's wound you up so badly. Why don't you bother to explain?

I only spoke the plain truth. It wasn't meant to insult or condescend.

 

[BobnLesley]

There might be IS a difference sailing in Fareham to the med so maybe a change of location...

My plans for a new boat have been hampered by all those years in the Med, Caribbean and Pacific; a suggestion of revisiting the Scottish Islands and then across to the Baltic have not generated much enthusiasm from SWMBO; I suspect they'll stay hampered until such time as we can again travel freely/easily to warmer sailing grounds and buy one there.

 

[john_morris_uk]

Sure. I think I was supporting the very strong impression I've always had about most couples, that madam is ambivalent at best, about the sailing part of boat owning; and entirely repelled by the maintenance, and shocked by the cost, even though she doesn't know the half of it. ?

Most of us who own boats are at least more content than unhappy, with the balance of reward-versus-burdensome maintenance...but I'm sure most women whose men own boats, would sooner he spent the same money on hotels, that she could share wholeheartedly.

Bless 'em.

To be fair, I only looked back a few posts, so I can't remember what this year-old thread was about.

If the female part of the couple is ambivalent I suggest that 99% of the time it’s nothing to do with her attitude, enthusiasm or alleged lack of an adventurous nature and much more to do with the way that she has been treated by the male of the species when they are on their boat.

My observation is that it’s nothing to do with women per se and much more to do with the way that they are treated by the average man on a boat. Claiming that there is some inherent personal characteristic about women that hates sailing and living on board a boat (or perhaps more mildly doesn’t care for it) is plain daft.

PS Ending with ‘ bless em’ reveals a patronising streak towards women that is reminiscent of the 50’s and 60’s.