How many other folk feel the same?

[KREW2]

The Name Bema Gus looks like it should be an anagram.At least he did't go down this route.

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[James_Calvert]

My wife and I sailed in UK/French waters for a couple of decades but eventually she found it too cold and too much faff wearing big plastic coats and trousers whilst getting splashed.

We've been doing this for 3 1/2 decades. If the weather's nice she takes her book on deck, or down below if not...

That's not the half of it of course. We do OK and still love it.

 

[RupertW]

We've been doing this for 3 1/2 decades. If the weather's nice she takes her book on deck, or down below if not...

That's not the half of it of course. We do OK and still love it.

We took the other route and moved to warmer climes to sail and hope we are enjoying as much you sound like you are.

 

[Greenheart]

We must move in very different circles. I know lots of couples who have sailed together all their lives.

Long may they enjoy it.

But yes, very different...although...the fact that they "have sailed together all their lives" may not indicate pure shared joy.

Interesting to set up a poll on whether wives enthuse wildly, or quite enjoy, or just tolerate, or flatly refuse to go, sailing.

It might also be interesting to reflect on the extent to which the captain believes his first mate is keen; or whether he is keen to believe she is keen; or if she has private reasons for encouraging that belief; or if he is blithely indifferent to her discontent.

I doubt that the typical sailing wife is as cheerful (or as wilfully unseeing) about the hideous cost of her husband's little hobby, as he is himself. It is tolerated to keep the peace, and since he's usually the primary earner, it is reluctantly accepted that he can waste their money as he pleases...

...so if she's able to overlook the cost, the purposeless inconvenience and needless discomfort, and isn't terrified of heeling or incurably prone to seasickness, she goes with him. Perhaps she tells everyone she really likes it, too.

 

[James_Calvert]

Dan.

You're rocking the boat.

Sit down!

?

 

[Greenheart]

Sorry, I thought this was chaps-only, and that we could safely be honest.

 

[Laminar Flow]

My wife and I sailed in UK/French waters for a couple of decades but eventually she found it too cold and too much faff wearing big plastic coats and trousers whilst getting splashed.

Best argument for a proper wheelhouse.
Ten years into the current tub, I cannot even remember the last time we had the foulies out, never mind to find them in a hurry.

Judging by all the usual man against sea heroics we usually encounter, I do wonder how often "doesn't want to come sailing" turns into a can't come sailing.

 

[RupertW]

Best argument for a proper wheelhouse.
Ten years into the current tub, I cannot even remember the last time we had the foulies out, never mind to find them in a hurry.

Judging by all the usual man against sea heroics we usually encounter, I do wonder how often "doesn't want to come sailing" turns into a can't come sailing.

We chose to sail in warmer waters instead. 45 knots like last week is different in short and T shirts laughing when you get soaked.

But I know if I ever sail in UK waters again then a wheelhouse or interior all round vision would be a must. A Lagoon would definitely appeal.

 

[Sailsalot]

Although said in a jokey way, it's no wonder women are put off even looking at this forum after reading some of the comments.

 

[Greenheart]

Which comments?

Women can certainly sail as well as men - with attributes of concentration and judgement and endurance of discomfort that are equal to men's, if they choose to put themselves through it. But what proportion of them would, if their other half hadn't decided for them?

 

[davidej]

We must move in very different circles. I know lots of couples who have sailed together all their lives.

Im my (limited) experience, this is usually where the lady was a yachtie before they got hitched.

 

[pragmatist]

Which comments?

Women can certainly sail as well as men - with attributes of concentration and judgement and endurance of discomfort that are equal to men's, if they choose to put themselves through it. But what proportion of them would, if their other half hadn't decided for them?

Dan are you trolling ? And I don't mean fishing !

Most of the couples we know who sail are both fans of the pastime . Your attitude seems to smack of the "little woman" syndrome - "if their other half hadn't decided for them" !!! No you cannot be real

 

[Sharky34]

My wife and I sailed in UK/French waters for a couple of decades but eventually she found it too cold and too much faff wearing big plastic coats and trousers whilst getting splashed.

Was that just whilst on the boat?

 

[Greenheart]

Dan are you trolling ? And I don't mean fishing ! Your attitude seems to smack of the "little woman" syndrome - "if their other half hadn't decided for them" !!! No you cannot be real

Well, I wasn't trying to be funny - or discouraging, to sailing men, or to the wives who are happy to accompany them.

And, I know several sailing women who have their own boats, in which their interest is entirely separate from any men's.

But I defy any man reading here to claim he believes that more than 10% of all the boat-owners he's known, were women...

...as men, we're known for determination to pursue often costly, doubtfully sensible dreams, be they wheeled or floating. The women in our lives mostly tag along rather than argue, (although some certainly object) but that's a long way from saying they would ever have chased the same dubiously rewarding experience, had it been left to their choice or their purse-strings.

We mostly bear the stamp of our origins, and the attitudes of earlier times. Can anybody here give as an example, a man they themselves knew or know, who gave up his weekends, evenings and holidays, and paid to pursue his wife's eccentric dream?
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[RupertW]

Well, I wasn't trying to be funny - or discouraging, to sailing men, or to the wives who are happy to accompany them.

And, I know several sailing women who have their own boats, in which their interest is entirely separate from any men's.

But I defy any man reading here to claim he believes that more than 10% of all the boat-owners he's known, were women...

...as men, we're known for determination to pursue often costly, doubtfully sensible dreams, be they wheeled or floating. The women in our lives mostly tag along rather than argue, (although some certainly object) but that's a long way from saying they would ever have chased the same dubiously rewarding experience, had it been left to their choice or their purse-strings.

We mostly bear the stamp of our origins, and the attitudes of earlier times. Can anybody here give as an example, a man they themselves knew or know, who gave up his weekends, evenings and holidays to pursue his wife's eccentric dream?
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I would say just under half the owners I know are men alone. Almost every sailors we know are couples sailing together. There are a few men sailing alone but they are in a tiny minority and I know a couple of women who sail alone (or to be more precise mostly sail with non sailing friends out for a visit)

 

[Greenheart]

Interesting - and indicative - but you miss out the critical points:

a) Were the men who sail alone, abandoned to their pastime by fed-up wives; and

b) Out of the couples who sail, what proportion of wives are genuinely keen to continue, and how many would just as keenly spend the cost of mooring, maintaining, re-equipping, refuelling and insuring, on a dozen long weekends per year in luxury hotels?

 

[DJE]

....... Can anybody here give as an example, a man they themselves knew or know, who gave up his weekends, evenings and holidays, and paid to pursue his wife's eccentric dream?

Friend of my in-laws. Sold their boat to buy a house with more land to do more gardening.

 

[DJE]

Im my (limited) experience, this is usually where the lady was a yachtie before they got hitched.

Well you wouldn't want to marry one who wasn't would you?

 

[Greenheart]

Sold their boat to buy a house with more land to do more gardening.

Doesn't sound like either of them had very much interest in sailing, does it?

 

[DJE]

Doesn't sound like either of them had very much interest in sailing, does it?

b) Out of the couples who sail, what proportion of wives are genuinely keen to continue, and how many would just as keenly spend the cost of mooring, maintaining, re-equipping, refuelling and insuring, on a dozen long weekends per year in luxury hotels?

I wouldn't presume to know the inner workings of somebody else's marriage.