How do you hide an aircraft carrier?
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Robert Wilson
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No need for apologies:encouragement:
I enjoyed the link, thank you. I had a feeling it was a spoof when I first heard a version about twenty five years ago.
And it still makes me chuckle every time I hear it.
Balbas
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They certainly did, but I think the idea was dropped when they sunk one of their subs by opening the hanger doors before they were completely surfaced IIRC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_aircraft_carrier
shaunksb
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No need for apologies:encouragement:
I enjoyed the link, thank you. I had a feeling it was a spoof when I first heard a version about twenty five years ago.
And it still makes me chuckle every time I hear it.
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maxi77
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It seems that modern mariners seem very frightened by other boats coming close. Way back when I was a very lowly cadet the training squadron (we were training enough officers back then to need three frigates to get half of them to sea,) we did rule of the road practical training in the strait of Gibraltar. A while later when I had completed submarine training class and we were running south past Arran and I was on one of my first unsupervised OOW on the bridge. It was night and I reported to the captain there were fishing boats from green 40 to red 90 I will feel my way past them. He mumbled OK and told me to get on with it. Today every one would be panicking. I might add there were still over 50 boats in the Clyde herring fleet then
Sgeir
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Has her skipper been allowed back on board yet?
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What was he up to in that car?
The tugs will be commercial ships and so have to have their AIS on... The dangers of outsourcing have never been so apparent..
grumpy_o_g
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I can't see an aircraft carrier at the moment without electronic aids and I'm wearing my glasses. In fairness I'm not trying to wire up a bomb either. I think you've rather missed the point - having the carrier proudly broadcasting it's position on marinetraffic.com would mean that any potential attacker would know where he or she needed to be to get to a location where they could see the thing.
Seajet
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To be honest since the USS Cole attack I think the military have every right to be twitchy about security.
Still I and chums always smile re the Type 45 ' Stealth ' destroyer; there's a complete T45 mast with Sampson radar as a test rig on Butser hill just inland of Portsmouth - it shows up better than any nav daymark we've ever seen
Still I and chums always smile re the Type 45 ' Stealth ' destroyer; there's a complete T45 mast with Sampson radar as a test rig on Butser hill just inland of Portsmouth - it shows up better than any nav daymark we've ever seen
Giblets
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To be honest since the USS Cole attack I think the military have every right to be twitchy about security.
Still I and chums always smile re the Type 45 ' Stealth ' destroyer; there's a complete T45 mast with Sampson radar as a test rig on Butser hill just inland of Portsmouth - it shows up better than any nav daymark we've ever seen
Andy, I think you mean Portsdown Hill as the only thing on Butser Hill is a bloody great comms mast which is 12 miles + inland.
Kukri
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A merchant ship can turn her AIS off if she feels threatened.
What is being hidden in plain sight is a major shipbuilding fiasco.
What is being hidden in plain sight is a major shipbuilding fiasco.
NormanS
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When I saw her leaving the Forth, on AIS (Vessel Finder), it showed up as "Warship, function unknown", which seemed to describe the ship remarkably well.
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JumbleDuck
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Giblets
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When the US carriers are in the Solent you just look for the AIS signal of the tanker moored alongside which is transmitting all the time! 
Seajet
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Or the huge surge in train passengers as the London tarts come down on what's locally known as a ' Have It Awayday ' ticket !
Thistle
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She seemed to turn on her AIS on exit from Rosyth, kept it on at anchor and only turned it off again after she had dropped the pilot and was somewhere north of Dunbar.
Boo2
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Seajet
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Like ordering RFA ships from Korea while closing down more of our own yards ?
Kukri
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What was the “planned” dry docking needed for? You shouldn’t need to dry dock a new ship until the anti fouling needs doing in 30 months or so.
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Seajet
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There was a snag with a slight shaft leak - can't see that being planned, an RN bod admitted it was a bit of a pain but no big deal really on local news.
