Tidewaiter2
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Blimey, VO5, where do they sail?
.......A few months ago a group from my club participated in a race off the coast of Sardinia. They put the boat (a Swan) on an uncharted rock and did huge damage to the vessel.
In cross questioning the navigator over lunch it turned out that the colour of the water was changing rapidly, yet no one on board understood the significance of this and they all ploughed on and crunch !
Had he been properly taught in detail as I was, he would have learnt that colour change off the coast signifies the proximity of shallows ahead and furthermore, since the coastline was rocky, the risk of a rocky bottom as well.
Further prodded as to why they did not immediately turn around and go to deeper water and safety, the reply was that it was a race, and in any event it would have taken time to work out a reciprocal course, just imagine !
I then shocked him by challenging him to quote any heading to which I was able INSTANTANEOUSLY and WITHOUT HESITATION give the reciprocal, not just once but at least a dozen times together with the equivalent in points and quadrantal notation for good measure.
Had he known these two facts and taken the proper action the wrecking would have been avoisded, never mind the race.
Now some of you are going to answer back, for sure.
This is just an examople of what happens in an environment of throwaway traininhg described as proper learning as a consequence of syllabuses being shrunk, I respectfully submit.[/QUOTE]
... surely they'd seen some shallows before, even in Greece,Croatia,Montenegro, Norway and Sweden which can be pretty steep to, and lump hammer and rock pin country for mooring.
I've found 'em
Well, I did my 'makee learning' on the Docks,Thames, Estuary, and East Coast-
One saying of many thumped into me was;
"When water turns brown, me trousers turn brown, you turn roun'"
"When water turns light, you'll get a fright, and a right clump, my lad"
Unless you were going up the lee side of a mud/sandbank going cockling, etc, of course, when you slow and look for the run off rills to creep up til next tide. Ah happy days.
.......A few months ago a group from my club participated in a race off the coast of Sardinia. They put the boat (a Swan) on an uncharted rock and did huge damage to the vessel.
In cross questioning the navigator over lunch it turned out that the colour of the water was changing rapidly, yet no one on board understood the significance of this and they all ploughed on and crunch !
Had he been properly taught in detail as I was, he would have learnt that colour change off the coast signifies the proximity of shallows ahead and furthermore, since the coastline was rocky, the risk of a rocky bottom as well.
Further prodded as to why they did not immediately turn around and go to deeper water and safety, the reply was that it was a race, and in any event it would have taken time to work out a reciprocal course, just imagine !
I then shocked him by challenging him to quote any heading to which I was able INSTANTANEOUSLY and WITHOUT HESITATION give the reciprocal, not just once but at least a dozen times together with the equivalent in points and quadrantal notation for good measure.
Had he known these two facts and taken the proper action the wrecking would have been avoisded, never mind the race.
Now some of you are going to answer back, for sure.
This is just an examople of what happens in an environment of throwaway traininhg described as proper learning as a consequence of syllabuses being shrunk, I respectfully submit.[/QUOTE]
... surely they'd seen some shallows before, even in Greece,Croatia,Montenegro, Norway and Sweden which can be pretty steep to, and lump hammer and rock pin country for mooring.
I've found 'em
Well, I did my 'makee learning' on the Docks,Thames, Estuary, and East Coast-
One saying of many thumped into me was;
"When water turns brown, me trousers turn brown, you turn roun'"
"When water turns light, you'll get a fright, and a right clump, my lad"
Unless you were going up the lee side of a mud/sandbank going cockling, etc, of course, when you slow and look for the run off rills to creep up til next tide. Ah happy days.
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