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French fishing boats that visited here in the 60s had a semi circular section in the rail across the transom, sometimes with a seat fixed, which we called a 'crapoo' after Johnny Crapoo, (from crapaud?). One day a boatload of trippers came by and we kids joyfully directed them round the stern where a large french fisherman was hanging out, there was some screaming and french invective.
 

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Back to the original question (!), if the ship is taken aback the chances are she will start going astern, in which case putting the helm hard over to starboard will turn her (anti-clockwise) onto the starboard tack - then re-set the sails for the starboard tack.

This works for me when I mess up a tack and the bows won't come through the wind. A helpful dinghy sailor taught me that - if you end up going backwards, reverse the helm.

I've absolutely no idea if the same thing applies in a square rigged ship!
 

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In 'Last of the Sailing Coasters' by Ted Eglinton (which I recommend) he describes 'drudging', dragging a weight or anchor up river with the tide to control the drift and reach a loading berth.
I have a vague memory of club hauling describing a method of veering a vessel across a current using an uptide anchor.
Oh dear! That's another book I'll have to find room for. :ROFLMAO:
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I'm glad I did buy it. Very enjoyable. (y)

I bought it to read over Christmas but had a quick look at it and ended up reading the whole thing in one day!
 

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Both 'A Young Sea Officers Sheet Anchor' ( 1808 edition plus 1858 additions ) and Harland's 'Seamanship InThe Age Of Sail' describe 'club-hauling' and 'Magnificent Hayes' extraordinary non-standard manoeuvre..... "This may be considered a special method of tacking"

The latter illustrates and describes techniques for working up ( down ) a river estuary by a combination of 'backing and filling' and 'dredging/drudging' - which is dragging an anchor/weight on short scope which slows the ship's motion over the bottom ( credited 'Potter' ). This can result in flow being maintained over the rudder, which permits 'sheering' across the stream when necessary. Preferably, drudge/dredge from the bows.

Knowledge of this technique may assist us in controlling our speed of entry into a tight and congested harbour or berth, when the wind is behind/'blowing on' and engine-power in astern otherwise 'inadequate'.

Other forms of 'handbrake' include TWO steel buckets well secured to warps ( 'dead slow' and 'stop' ) and/or an oversized drogue.
 

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Both 'A Young Sea Officers Sheet Anchor' ( 1808 edition plus 1858 additions ) and Harland's 'Seamanship InThe Age Of Sail' describe 'club-hauling' and 'Magnificent Hayes' extraordinary non-standard manoeuvre..... "This may be considered a special method of tacking"

The latter illustrates and describes techniques for working up ( down ) a river estuary by a combination of 'backing and filling' and 'dredging/drudging' - which is dragging an anchor/weight on short scope which slows the ship's motion over the bottom ( credited 'Potter' ). This can result in flow being maintained over the rudder, which permits 'sheering' across the stream when necessary. Preferably, drudge/dredge from the bows.

Knowledge of this technique may assist us in controlling our speed of entry into a tight and congested harbour or berth, when the wind is behind/'blowing on' and engine-power in astern otherwise 'inadequate'.

Other forms of 'handbrake' include TWO steel buckets well secured to warps ( 'dead slow' and 'stop' ) and/or an oversized drogue.
I tried drudging upriver to Pontrieux. It was going well until a breeze picked up from astern and I lost steerage way and ended up touching the bank.

No harm done and an interesting exercise. Useful to know you can do these things if you ever have to.

I did wonder if I should be displaying some ColRegs day shape, eg manouvering with difficulty before the breeze arrived, after that not under command!
 

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I'm glad I did buy it. Very enjoyable. (y)

I bought it to read over Christmas but had a quick look at it and ended up reading the whole thing in one day!
Magic! Must dig it out....again. A not so long bygone era. Some of those boats used to come into our village and dry out unload into carts on the beach.
 

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Other forms of 'handbrake' include TWO steel buckets well secured to warps ( 'dead slow' and 'stop' ) and/or an oversized drogue.
A 25ft crabber, open boat, coming through the rocks in front of Lizard lighthouse in a following ground sea: they prepared two half-hundredweights on ropes attached to the aft thwart, ('thaft' locally) which also had the mizzen mast mounted to it. As a huge sea picked them up the skipper said 'drop 'em' and a few seconds later the thwart and mast went over the stern.
"Ah well, they're well anchored, pick 'em up tomorrow"
 

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I'd start the engine first !
Now that's a good idea! Why didn't......

For a decade and more I found myself 'helping out' wi' a friend's Rival 34 here, there and elsewhere. Looking back, the old BMC donk failed and went u/s more than a dozen times.... several of those being 'melted Vetus bottle'..... sailing onto anchor at the back of Caldey Island, up the river to the Royal Cork YC, onto anchor in Port Ellen in a hooley, same across from Crinan, to a mooring twice at Oban, into Newlyn, into Moulin Blanc and a finger pontoon.....

It helped that I had an old copy of the RYA's little DS booklet.... :rolleyes:
 
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