chrishelen
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Anybody used these? Want to get my engine rebuild at some time during the winter. Send a few emails and spoke to the guy responsible for rebuilding, but not very responsive.
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longjohnsilver
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I've used them to service my Trac stabilisers. Can't speak for their engine section, but the chap who did my stabs was exceptionally competent and helpful.
maverickofpoole
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I have used both the Portsmouth (Mark Jenkins) and Poole (Rob Cheeseman) branches and found both to be good. I found both contacts above Mark and Rob to be very professional and responsive. From the experiences I had with this company I would not hesitate in recommending them.
Not connected to them just a satisfied customer
Not connected to them just a satisfied customer
volvopaul
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I tend to find that main dealers are not interested in rebuilding old style engines, they would rather sell you a repower package which costs more but can give reliability and of course a warranty, a case of you pays your money you takes your choice . What engine do you have ?
chrishelen
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It's a perkins m30. I spoke to a very helpful guy on Wednesday who mentioned it might be better to put a new engine in. But still waiting for his email. They rebuilt the engine about 5 years ago, I do around 3-4000 a years so I need reliability, I guess these guys did a good job back then, so why not rebuild if possible?
Fishtigua
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Do Lancing Marine still rebuild Perkies?
chrishelen
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Not sure. I'll check it out after the weekend.
Bandit
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Rebuild is an expensive and time consuming option. Golden Arrow are at the good/ expensive and thorough end.
Are you one or two engines.
If you are doing 3 to 4 k hours pa and the engine is now 10 years old or more 30 to 40k hours a reporter is a definite option run until the day you take it out and sell old units, they can get good money.
New unit is new technology not obsolete with parts problems and with manufacturers warranty.
Some rebuilds are thorough and scientific some are a degrease and a few cans of spray paint it is very difficult comparing like with like, any rebuild is only as good as the weakest most worn part.
Ifyou are replacing an engine generally an engine or engine and gearbox package means you get the gearbox for a fraction of the price of a separately priced unit.
Are you one or two engines.
If you are doing 3 to 4 k hours pa and the engine is now 10 years old or more 30 to 40k hours a reporter is a definite option run until the day you take it out and sell old units, they can get good money.
New unit is new technology not obsolete with parts problems and with manufacturers warranty.
Some rebuilds are thorough and scientific some are a degrease and a few cans of spray paint it is very difficult comparing like with like, any rebuild is only as good as the weakest most worn part.
Ifyou are replacing an engine generally an engine or engine and gearbox package means you get the gearbox for a fraction of the price of a separately priced unit.
chrishelen
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I must admit I was leaning towards new, Beta maybe. They have a two week turnaround.
TwoHooter
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To answer the original question Golden Arrow did our engine room service last year (main, wing, genset), and this year I have had quite a bit of contact with them concerning stabilisers. I am certain they are a reputable company and everyone I have dealt with has been very professional.
Fishtigua
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The dealings I've had with Golden Arrow have only been regarding gearboxes, they have always been top notch.
Tranona
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With that sort of usage it has clocked up 15000+ hours since a rebuild. That engine is lifed for 8000 hours in industrial use so you have had your money's worth. Why do you think it needs a rebuild? Is it rattling or burning oil? If the latter, the bores cannot be rebored, so unless it is just rings and rehone, the block is scrap.
The engine has been out of production for 10 years and the obvious replacement would be a D1 30 which is also a Perkins base. I expect you would get a good deal from Golden Arrow for a new package.
chrishelen
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No...it runs like a little sewing machine. But with the hours that it does its going to wear out eventually and I don't want to be faffing about changing engines in my busy period. So bite the bullet and fit a new or recon.
Tranona
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With those sort of hours makes sense to buy new. sell the current engine with it running in the boat or get a part exchange deal from golden Arrow. Volvo usually run a winter discount programme for their engines. Pretty sure the D1 30 has virtually the same footprint as your current engine, which was also sold as the Volvo 2030.
chrishelen
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Good advice. ....my plan is to re engine in January.
volvopaul
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I'd say that the D1/30 series won't last anywhere near as long as your old engine, they are very expensive on major parts as there Perkins based but with a sting in the tail as there a Japanese Perkins, Volvo have made them not supply internal parts through there Perkins network , I have had many rebuilds over the years on the Perkins based Volvo badged units, both on the 2030/40 series which is a Perkins base unit, the Pistons don't last , neither do the valves, there uneconomic to rebuild and Diperk which control the parts network for Perkins don't have any cross match system to order parts at Perkins prices instead of Volvo prices. Bonkers I know but that's what your up against .
I will take a look at what your M30 is based on.
I will take a look at what your M30 is based on.
Tranona
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M30 is the same as a 2030. Introduced as a Perkins first then as a volvo. some differences in marinisation but same base engine.
I had a 2030 in my last boat. Did 3500 hours and still runs perfectly. Now have a D1 30 which is not quite as smooth overall but runs slower.
You are right that rebuilding them is difficult.
volvopaul
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I know, I think between them they have deliberately made it difficult to rebuild them , more towards the throw away society that we now live in. I know the 3 cylinder series 105 series lump is used in many Lordy fridge compressor units and small skid steer loaders, 360 rubber track excavators . Volvo just tied Perkins hands on this to profiteer there green engine and parts sales.
volvopaul
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If it is the same lump in the M30 painted Perkins matallic blue then after many years research I know it well and A few shortcuts into the bargain! Makes me wonder what the price difference is on the same parts through a VP dealer over Golden arrows Perkins based parts outlet .
chrishelen
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Was quoted a good price for a new beta marine engine on Friday. Any thoughts?
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