DownWest
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Big difference between that and 'thrill rides' which have to get closer to the safe limits, or no thrill.
Girl, 15, dies in Southampton boat crash
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Capt Popeye
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Humm compare the lack ofa Manslaughter verdict with that of the elderly Woman pedestrian who was convicted of Manslaughter when another Elderly Woman riding a cycle left the pavement that they were both on falling into the path of an oncomming car , and getting killed : the pedestrian shouted at the cyclist and possibly touched Her when she fell off the Cycle into the road : the Pedestrian was jailed for 3 years I recall
I read that its noted that us public are reluctant to convict on a Manslaughter verdict in Road and now Water bourne activities / incidents
Yes I recon that the scentence was too lenient by far
I read that its noted that us public are reluctant to convict on a Manslaughter verdict in Road and now Water bourne activities / incidents
Yes I recon that the scentence was too lenient by far
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Bouba
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I thought she got three years
Capt Popeye
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Yes thank you think you are right : altered /amended my post accordingly
Chiara’s slave
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The victim was elderly, but sweary Mary was 49, in spite of outward appearances.
Thistle
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I wonder how many here have experience of the sentencing process? It's difficult enough if you have heard all the evidence and listened to the submissions from both sides. I wish people who have not heard the evidence and listened to submissions would keep their thoughts to themselves.
Elessar
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ban yachts then. A good friend of mine was killed on a yacht.
Capt Popeye
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Humm guess I upport 'penberth' comment but NOT 'Elessar' , as in the Joy Ride the loss of life and other injurys were certainly as a result of 'others' mistakes , carelessness etc etc in the example of , a good friend was killed on a Yacht , the unfortunate person was probably not ?
Elessar
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They court couldn‘t decide actually. Nothing is so cut and dried. Far better to allow prejudice and assumptions to decide eh?
Capt Popeye
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Well did I not read on here that the Driver /Skipper , of the craft involved in the death and injuries was actually convicted of an offence ?
Or is that prejudice or assumptions ?
Elessar
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Your assumption and prejudice was in the case of the yacht.
ylop
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no need, the insurers will essentially self regulate the risk if the industry won’t. Operators already say massive increase in premiums.
rarely any point in outright banning something as people are incredibly inventive at ways of hurting themselves and others. But, I would not be surprised if individual harbour authorities take a much more proactive involvement in deciding who can/can’t operate high speed thrill rides in their patch. I think that is actually a far more practical solution (and HA’s are far better placed to judge than insurers) - although sadly some will probably be influenced by the wrong factors (for or against them).
Lightwave395
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According to the news yesterday this wasn't the first time that particular 'operator' had hit things. It was also reported that neither the business owner or the driver had shown much, if any, contrition and / or apolgised to the girl's parents
Bouba
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If you are pleading not guilty...it would probably hurt your case to apologize
Chiara’s slave
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They still failed to show any contrition after the trial and sentencing, when it could have no bearing.
penfold
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You could watch the video of the incident and see that no such thing occurred, or if it did the cox did nothing in the intervening seconds to act upon his becoming unsighted.
The video of this incident appears to show the pedestrian pushing the cyclist into the road, it's difficult to interpret that as anything other than deliberate and the court seems to have thought the same thing.
doug748
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Difficult not to agree.
His conviction and sentence fails to reflect what actually happened. Manslaughter and suspended jail term would have been bearable but this conviction reads like he just had a poor hair day.
The family must be distraught.
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Bouba
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They may have grounds to appeal.....while there isn’t a sentence (although the Government could review it if they think it’s too lenient) a conviction is going to hurt the rest of their lives...as far as business, employment, travel etc
Lightwave395
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Contrition wouldn't hurt
IMHO the sentence should have been to be taken out into Southampton water and flung into a buoy at 25 knots
Bouba
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I suspect that at all times they probably acted on the advice of their brief
