Frank Holden
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Directional dyslexia - a worrying condition in a navigator.
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zoidberg
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Frank Holden
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He should be able to steer the boat and keep her moving nicely for - say - 16 hours a day. What else is there to do? Sit below reading old copies of the Reader's Digest for the nth time?
Seems he most likely fell victim to the NW wind and sea over SW'ly swell issue that you get as you near the Chilean coast.
Last time we crossed we lost the aux rudder of our wind vane in a similar manner almost exactly 7 years ago to the day . Confused sea, boat fell in to the abyss. I recall seeing 17knots on either the log or GPS but not sure if that was up, down or sideways. Anyway the vane tried to keep her on course, 'barn doored' the aux rudder which truly did go west.
Non functioning autopilot meant we had to hand steer for two or three weeks - luckily there were three of us. A week or so later a single hander well south of us ( 800 miles?) was rolled - she put it all in the too hard basket and turned left for Panama.
Seems he most likely fell victim to the NW wind and sea over SW'ly swell issue that you get as you near the Chilean coast.
Last time we crossed we lost the aux rudder of our wind vane in a similar manner almost exactly 7 years ago to the day . Confused sea, boat fell in to the abyss. I recall seeing 17knots on either the log or GPS but not sure if that was up, down or sideways. Anyway the vane tried to keep her on course, 'barn doored' the aux rudder which truly did go west.
Non functioning autopilot meant we had to hand steer for two or three weeks - luckily there were three of us. A week or so later a single hander well south of us ( 800 miles?) was rolled - she put it all in the too hard basket and turned left for Panama.
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zoidberg
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Hmmm. I'm interested in the details of your .jpeg pic.
I have a spare rudder assembly for my Cutlass27 and also a pair of foils from De Savery's 'Blue Arrow' that are much lighter. I'm sure I could cobble together a sort-of emergency rudder, with some gudgeon/pintles from SeaSure or Allen.
I have a spare rudder assembly for my Cutlass27 and also a pair of foils from De Savery's 'Blue Arrow' that are much lighter. I'm sure I could cobble together a sort-of emergency rudder, with some gudgeon/pintles from SeaSure or Allen.
Frank Holden
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NB this rudder is totally independent of main rudder.
First photo shows complete assembly. Short tiller is what damping lines are attached to to stop oversteering.
second shot, Port/stbd on trim tab is transferred as push pull to small arm which in turn sends rotary up the inside of the pole.
Third shot. where the trim tab signal ends up. Red line goes to cockpit and engages/disengages the system
Fourth shot. Vertical axis vane has a 'tail' about 18 inches long which drops into hollow tube as shown. Bit of bungee engages system when red line is released.
Last shot, somewhere in the mid 40's.
First photo shows complete assembly. Short tiller is what damping lines are attached to to stop oversteering.
second shot, Port/stbd on trim tab is transferred as push pull to small arm which in turn sends rotary up the inside of the pole.
Third shot. where the trim tab signal ends up. Red line goes to cockpit and engages/disengages the system
Fourth shot. Vertical axis vane has a 'tail' about 18 inches long which drops into hollow tube as shown. Bit of bungee engages system when red line is released.
Last shot, somewhere in the mid 40's.
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zoidberg
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Thanks for those, Frank. I'll look to your ideas when cobbling together a usable 'get-me-home' ( or somewhere else ) independent rudder system.
Frank Holden
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Back on track, which is what Simon seems to be, I think he will keep going. He can lose an awful lot of ground before anyone catches up with him and once past Estados life should get easier.
I reckon given a bit of settled weather he should be able to fix that linkage with duct tape and string. Might not stand up to heavy conditions but in lighter conditions with a well balanced boat?
They are allowed to carry duct tape, yes??
I reckon given a bit of settled weather he should be able to fix that linkage with duct tape and string. Might not stand up to heavy conditions but in lighter conditions with a well balanced boat?
They are allowed to carry duct tape, yes??
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Goldie
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If its good enough for the RAF......
The black stuff the RAF used - aka ‘bodge tape’ ?
zoidberg
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Let's not forget that Jean Luc Van Den Heede lashed-up his severely damaged lower shrouds attachment using some Dyneema cord - in much the same bit of ocean - that just happened to 'hiding un-noticed' in a locker, and that held his mast together all the way back to SDO and a 'win'.
zoidberg
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Haven't I seen that used on the advancing edge of Chinook and Puma helos' rotor blades, to hold them together until the next Major Service....? Or, on ops deployment, 'camo DP green'...?
zoidberg
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'Meanwhile, back at the ranch'.... GGR and Simon.
I see some really heavy weather is coming Simon's way over the next few days and he appears to be diving south out of its way, as best he can.
He's a canny lad!
Edit: "SimonCurwen (UK) - Biscay 36 “Clara”: All well on Clara. Making good progress E and S where all options lie. Sorry for lack of coms. Race rules. Can update in call Mon"
I see some really heavy weather is coming Simon's way over the next few days and he appears to be diving south out of its way, as best he can.
He's a canny lad!
Edit: "SimonCurwen (UK) - Biscay 36 “Clara”: All well on Clara. Making good progress E and S where all options lie. Sorry for lack of coms. Race rules. Can update in call Mon"
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Goldie
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Haven't I seen that used on the advancing edge of Chinook and Puma helos' rotor blades, to hold them together until the next Major Service....? Or, on ops deployment, 'camo DP green'...?
I couldn’t possibly comment… ?
zoidberg
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We mustn't mention the 'Special Forces' fit which uses clear blade tape, in the earnest belief that they then cannot be seen, and are therefore 'Stealth Chinooks'....
Frank Holden
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Never mind the RAF, when you look out your window and see this its a bit unsettling
Tape on a plane? We look into the viral photo that suggests Qantas is winging it with repairs
Tape on a plane? We look into the viral photo that suggests Qantas is winging it with repairs
Yara
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Has the on-line discussion by Tapio and his team on their take on the loss of his boat been recorded? Has anyone got a link?
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ridgy
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Sooo slow and beset by technical issues. Was looking forward to it but gave up after 25 minutes by which time Tapio had only just started to talk about the rebuild.
I'll know what to listen to next time I'm struggling to get to sleep. Tapio's voice could send anyone off.
zoidberg
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A message from Simon Corwen this morning indicates he has decided to head for a Chilean port to effect repairs, changing to 'Chichester Class', and will consider his options .
It seems he had too much difficulty maintaining a downwind course in 'moderate breeze' and was worried about slow going with a series of storms due.
It seems he had too much difficulty maintaining a downwind course in 'moderate breeze' and was worried about slow going with a series of storms due.
zoidberg
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The wing is still flying, presumably still attached to the other one, and somebody seems to have landed it somewhere - so that's all right, then.
But it's not only the RAF. What about superglue holding together bits of the RN's nuclear deterrent submarines?
Trident sub just glued together