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Are either of these worth visiting? Do you see boats you would'nt see at Southampton or London?
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EME
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This will come as no surprise but I have been to both. They are of a similar ilk , it's just that Genoa is a dump and bloody ugly with the worst food in Italy.
Given that the mercenary Genoeser crossbowmen were annihalated at Crecy by the stirring Welsh and Borders longbowmen may of course have something to do with my disdain for the place.
I digress. The big advantage of cannes is that ALL the boats are on the water. It really is so much better than Soton for a good day out looking at boats ( but not great for general swindelry). All The Italian and US manufactuers seem to be really well represented, and a lot of the small Italian shipyards are there with models which frankly I have rarely if ever seen since. Last year I ended up going for 3 days ( of course good lunches domianted most of the afternoons).
Well worth a visit and if you go on a weekday (which I would recommend as it is really quite empty)you will find that salespeople are much more accomodating and look after you really well with none of the 'I'm Looking down my nose at you' attitude you see in soton, but then again there isn't a Guinness bar which probably swings it back the other way.
To get on a boat the lines.. 'I own a x xxx in La nap/port Vauban/ etc but am about to trade up'...will get you on anything and test drives
For real fun my mother-in-law is available for hire. She has some unfinished 'rollockings' to give to the Sunseeker staff..
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Given that the mercenary Genoeser crossbowmen were annihalated at Crecy by the stirring Welsh and Borders longbowmen may of course have something to do with my disdain for the place.
I digress. The big advantage of cannes is that ALL the boats are on the water. It really is so much better than Soton for a good day out looking at boats ( but not great for general swindelry). All The Italian and US manufactuers seem to be really well represented, and a lot of the small Italian shipyards are there with models which frankly I have rarely if ever seen since. Last year I ended up going for 3 days ( of course good lunches domianted most of the afternoons).
Well worth a visit and if you go on a weekday (which I would recommend as it is really quite empty)you will find that salespeople are much more accomodating and look after you really well with none of the 'I'm Looking down my nose at you' attitude you see in soton, but then again there isn't a Guinness bar which probably swings it back the other way.
To get on a boat the lines.. 'I own a x xxx in La nap/port Vauban/ etc but am about to trade up'...will get you on anything and test drives
For real fun my mother-in-law is available for hire. She has some unfinished 'rollockings' to give to the Sunseeker staff..
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I agree. I have been to genoa, not cannes, and genoa is an unbelievable dump. We have grim-sounding places like glasgow and newcastle in uk which are actually v nice when you go. By contrast, Genoa sounds ok but is horrid - the inside is much much nastier than even Olympia in London. The outisde feels like the commercial port that it is. Don't go unless you are Italian and like the who country looking like a dump cos it makes your very smart clothes look even smarter.
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Deleted User YDKXO
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Thanks. Just noticed that the Cannes Show is on over the first weekend of the Soton Show and I've just forked out for Preview Day tickets. Brilliant timing, eh?
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jfm
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Haven't been to either but a friend just took delivery of a sseeker down there and Sseekr have given him two "VIP" (yeah, right) tickets to the Cannes show with access to their bigger boats, so I'm going. We'll probly take learner's advice and go midweek
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Did'nt appreciate only the toffs get to look at the bigger boats. Whats the cut-off for Ordinary Joe punters like me?
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EME
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Toffs cut-off
There isn't one ! last year, despite my dress sense being somewhat ,urggghh, non existent even I got on, inter alia,
Largest Manahttan (?) they had there
Riva Rivarama
Big Baia (Azurra?)
2 Mangusta
Ferrettis
Sabreline
Cantieri di Sarnico (?)
lord knows what else,
only thing is some are by appointment only . So when you get there , go and book the really big ones asap. There are so many Dream Machines, that it's fun watching some of the 'lesser' manufacturers like Sunseeker with quite sparse 'berths'. It means they are actually very quiet so you get great nosing around opportunity.
It isn't just super yachts either. All sizes there. They basically take the Vieux port over , send everyone else away and build temporary pontoons. Including one which effectively opens and closes sealing the harbour but letting boats out for sea trials etc. Mucho impressive.
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There isn't one ! last year, despite my dress sense being somewhat ,urggghh, non existent even I got on, inter alia,
Largest Manahttan (?) they had there
Riva Rivarama
Big Baia (Azurra?)
2 Mangusta
Ferrettis
Sabreline
Cantieri di Sarnico (?)
lord knows what else,
only thing is some are by appointment only . So when you get there , go and book the really big ones asap. There are so many Dream Machines, that it's fun watching some of the 'lesser' manufacturers like Sunseeker with quite sparse 'berths'. It means they are actually very quiet so you get great nosing around opportunity.
It isn't just super yachts either. All sizes there. They basically take the Vieux port over , send everyone else away and build temporary pontoons. Including one which effectively opens and closes sealing the harbour but letting boats out for sea trials etc. Mucho impressive.
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tcm
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How to get on the big boats
I had lots of these VIP tickets, and was brushed off for ages, so bought elsewhere esssetially cos some treated us like dirt on the stands. I was looking at the p74, got tickets, turned up with kids and learner-style grunge (just-clean t-shirt) and the orange-tan smirk quizzed how i had got the ticket, hm? Bit of explaning needed and a 5 minute wait. Then, monster explosion (me) and stuff this hanging about with all the "valued customers" sloping around downstairs, and toldem quite (very) loudly to stuff it.
Later,after training (and buying) in Italy, I knew what to do. You dress up a bit, wear a big coat, and smoke a big cigar. Or praps have a dog. Anything awkward. With the cigar you march on the stand, Manahtan, that one, i need to see around it, and walk towards it. With shoes off they get a bit worrid bout the cigar, so march back to the lady with cigar, shout "Ashtray!" attem, and they scurry about, one even proffering cupped hands as an ashtray. I found a cup of coffe and splooshed it out in there. Extra points if it's only half-smoked. Lovely show-around by salepeople, cups of coffe and lah-di-dah. They honestly expect their customers to be rude, or very rude, and make others feel small. One weekday morning, empty LBS, swmbo and I sat and drank champagne in the bar opposite their stand. We though at the time that they didn't come over becos they were rubbish salespeople, but it seems that they felt we were probably beneath them. Strange and uniquely dysfunctional company culture.
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I had lots of these VIP tickets, and was brushed off for ages, so bought elsewhere esssetially cos some treated us like dirt on the stands. I was looking at the p74, got tickets, turned up with kids and learner-style grunge (just-clean t-shirt) and the orange-tan smirk quizzed how i had got the ticket, hm? Bit of explaning needed and a 5 minute wait. Then, monster explosion (me) and stuff this hanging about with all the "valued customers" sloping around downstairs, and toldem quite (very) loudly to stuff it.
Later,after training (and buying) in Italy, I knew what to do. You dress up a bit, wear a big coat, and smoke a big cigar. Or praps have a dog. Anything awkward. With the cigar you march on the stand, Manahtan, that one, i need to see around it, and walk towards it. With shoes off they get a bit worrid bout the cigar, so march back to the lady with cigar, shout "Ashtray!" attem, and they scurry about, one even proffering cupped hands as an ashtray. I found a cup of coffe and splooshed it out in there. Extra points if it's only half-smoked. Lovely show-around by salepeople, cups of coffe and lah-di-dah. They honestly expect their customers to be rude, or very rude, and make others feel small. One weekday morning, empty LBS, swmbo and I sat and drank champagne in the bar opposite their stand. We though at the time that they didn't come over becos they were rubbish salespeople, but it seems that they felt we were probably beneath them. Strange and uniquely dysfunctional company culture.
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jfm
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dysfunctional boat salestwonks again
Teehee, twud have been fun! Unfortunately the chap I'm going with would not do such a good job of monster strop as you, but might manage something suitable. He has well north of £100 cash on deposit so could buy the company rather than the boat. I shall make sure he has plenty beers beforehand to maximaise his performance. I will impress the sseker folks by attending with a new bag, since I shall be the bag carrier.
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Teehee, twud have been fun! Unfortunately the chap I'm going with would not do such a good job of monster strop as you, but might manage something suitable. He has well north of £100 cash on deposit so could buy the company rather than the boat. I shall make sure he has plenty beers beforehand to maximaise his performance. I will impress the sseker folks by attending with a new bag, since I shall be the bag carrier.
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tcm
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Re: huh!
No chance. I hear that you mate is quite pleasant, and that so are you. So i fully expect the salespeople to keep their sunglasses on for the duration thereby making eye contact impossible, and that they will take up to 3 personal phone calls on their mobile phones which totally interrupts the conversation.
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No chance. I hear that you mate is quite pleasant, and that so are you. So i fully expect the salespeople to keep their sunglasses on for the duration thereby making eye contact impossible, and that they will take up to 3 personal phone calls on their mobile phones which totally interrupts the conversation.
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EME
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Re: dysfunctional boat salestwonks again
..and I shall be the dishevelled heap of sh*** that you will see wandering around with fag, cheapo sunglasses , going "Gissa ride mister !''....you get no brownie points for swatting me with your bag full of mucho looto either.
However , for a free beer I might even lick his shoes ...well almost.
Sill think my little sweet Mother-in-Law took award for cheek last year. kept waiting by the Sseeker lot ( a la TCM experience) except she dresses a little better than me. She lost it with rude persons and chased them off the stand (haranguing in Franglais). Then proceeded to invite punters all and sundry onto the Manahttan as if she was the Commissar in Chief --- can't face the Golfe Juan lot since !!
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..and I shall be the dishevelled heap of sh*** that you will see wandering around with fag, cheapo sunglasses , going "Gissa ride mister !''....you get no brownie points for swatting me with your bag full of mucho looto either.
However , for a free beer I might even lick his shoes ...well almost.
Sill think my little sweet Mother-in-Law took award for cheek last year. kept waiting by the Sseeker lot ( a la TCM experience) except she dresses a little better than me. She lost it with rude persons and chased them off the stand (haranguing in Franglais). Then proceeded to invite punters all and sundry onto the Manahttan as if she was the Commissar in Chief --- can't face the Golfe Juan lot since !!
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