sailaboutvic
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Have you try using pans on a induction hob in any seas ?
Just because you may not be able to it don't mean it can't be done .
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Have you try using pans on a induction hob in any seas ?
Just because you may not be able to it don't mean it can't be done .
sailaboutvic
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Obviously too short for you
lustyd
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So you're advocating we all install two sets of cookers as well as all of the electrical generation paraphernalia? I'd like some room on the boat to store the gin so will just stick to gas. Just because you might be able to make it work, doesn't make it a good idea!
DJE
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So if I go over to Flo Gas will I get any money back from Calor for returning my old cylinders?
dgadee
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ProDave
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If they are not going to give you even a token payment for returning them, then like many others, they will sit and collect dust in my shed.
I wanted to exchange 2 spare cylinders for one different sized one, a swap they used to do, but they said no. With an attitude like that, my 2 spare cylinders will remain out of use.
DJE
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That might account for part of their shortage of bottles. But Flo Gas have a similar non-refundable cylinder charge.
sailaboutvic
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I'm not advocating nothing , you do want you want ,
All I'm saying is many do now and without Gen .
Actually my lithium took less room and was light then my 4x 6v batteries so more room for your G&T .
I totally understand many won't want to make the investment and I also agree for a weekend boat /two week holiday boat it not worth it .
What I dont agree with it suggest it won't work , cos as you see three of us in this little group make it work .
lustyd
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Your cylinders are worthless if you can't get gas anyway
lustyd
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Aside from being wildly off topic for the thread, I've not seen anyone showing an average yacht with sufficient power for proper cruising and cooking on board in varied conditions. We've had a case of a large yacht with lots of power including solar covering a pilothouse, and we've seen people marina hopping and using electric while tied alongside. We've also seen power figures quotes for best case scenarios in bright continuous sunshine in the med where there are no tides. We've also seen your example of not being able to use it while under way, hardly a solution for a cruising boat where one might be underway for 48 hours.
dunedin
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I don’t have Calor cylinders, but from previous iterations of this topic the common UK Calor cylinder has a fold down handle, which is critical for some boats with gas lockers designed around these cylinders.
There were some Calor cylinders imported from Ireland, apparently, which did not have the fold down handle (effectively the same as the FloGas one, it would appear) which did not fit some boats. Moody and Westerly owners seemed to be involved in this dialogue.
Minerva
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I'm not suggesting this is company policy, but when I got Flo-Gas bottles for my camper van a couple of years ago, the depot were more than happy (I.e without being asked to) waive the cost of the bottles. I only paid for 2xbottles worth of gas...
PetiteFleur
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A few weeks ago, I realised I had a leak from my 4.5kg calor butane, smelt it so investigated and it was the leaky valve. Looked on Calor website, saw the note about a recall, checked the code and mine was one of the leaky ones. Emailed Calor with the dedicated form, not expecting a reply, but answered within 20 minutes. She had found a replacement cylinder at Framlingham so phoned and reserved two. When collected a couple of days later they had a few 4.5kg butane and when questioned said they didn't have a problem... I now have 3 full ones(I got a couple of empties earlier cheaply) so should be ok for a while. My local supplier, a local garage, has not had any for a couple of years. Apparently they are concentrating on suppling the large household propane cylinders and of course refilling Camping Gaz cylinders locally at Bury St Edmunds!
rotrax
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I dont want to fall out but you are wrong.
Our boat has eight square metres of pilothouse roof. Only 2 Sq. Metres have solar, the majority of the space is taken up with the 2.4 Talamex dinghy upside down on the roof plus the Wi-Fi booster aerial and a big Jabsco searchlight. The pilot house roof is far from being covered.
Anyway, what IS an average yacht? They seem to get bigger all the time.
We have seen a 41 foot American boat in Londonderry with 700W of Solar, mostly flexible panels fixed to the coachroof and above the bimini. It had crossed the pond earlier this year, via the Azores and Canaries They in no way spoilt the looks of that boat. They had a large Lithium house bank and all electric cooking, no gas. A sodding great inverter though! Working well for them in a very cloudy and dull week down the Foyle. The electric post required a member of the Foyle Port team to come and activate it. The Yanks were clear they did not need it. We used it for the calorifier, electric kettle and toaster. Not for the 60 amp Charles Battery Charger fitted to our boat, not used that since May 12th.
Another we were adjacent to in Glenarm had 200W with Rigid panels where the dodgers are normally fixed. They were swung up when at rest. The Skipper told me three years with no problems, enough to run a fridge, instruments and autohelm for 40 hours from a fully charged bank. He had a moveable 100W panel for use when sailing but rarely bothered to use it.
It is horses for courses. Last season we were away three and a half months, mostly South Coast as far as the Helford River and back to Littlehampton. We used harbourmasters pontoons and mooring buoys, no marinas or shore power. No Solar last season. The genset was run for an hour each morning for a tank of hot water and to give the batteries a kick. It was almost, but not quite, enough. The house bank was sometimes down to 12.3 0r 12.4V in the morning before the genset worked the charger.
As I keep saying, very little sun so far this trip, about 17 fully sunny days in three months. My 400W of Solar has kept my bank up to 12.8-13V in dull and cloudy weather.
It has surpassed my expectations big time. The next addition is an inverter to make use of the excess amps..................................
DJE
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Worthless to me perhaps but presumably of some value to Calor.
lustyd
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They don’t seem to be that smart from what I can tell
Sandy
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I've not had any problems getting Gaz in Devon and it is peak season. As the boat has a 907 locker, I normally carry the 'in use bottle' and a spare. The 'extra' bottle is stored empty at home and refilled before a long voyage.
Pete7
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Ooo, I hope your not referring to me. We aren't planning sailing off into the wilderness for weeks on end or crossing an ocean. Instead we prefer creek crawling, away from the rest. Our favourites include Hurst Castle, Wareham, Worbarrow bay rather than Lulworth. Lime Regis, Totnes and R Yealm etc. We might stop in Portland because it has a great Lidl 500 yards from the marina, but rarely bother plugging in, we just don't need to.
A very thin silicone matt on the induction hob helps and the small kettle surprisingly stays put on the galley even in F4 to windward, but if it is rough we have the gimballed stove to fall back on. Its a choice that we and lots of others are exploring and enjoying the result.
Pete
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Boathook
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Is there a reason why the induction hob can't be fitted to a gimballed 'box' with rails to keep kettle and pans in place ? You could then get rid of the gimballed, persumably gas, stove.
sailaboutvic
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No reason and people have done that, ovens also that Gimballed .
Some have got rid of gas totally which others have kept it as a second option as we did for when it was more convenient.
Our lastest boat is all gas for now but plains are being make over winter to equip it with a good size lithium batteries bank to service our 6 months ( non marinas) summer cruising for the future.
I just can't understand why some just won't except it's possible especially if all that's wanted is cook on electric which is only a small amount to what I am many others was using electric from ( kettles, fridge,heating hot water, charging equipment,freezer) and so on .
Let face it many just use the gas rings , how many cook a Sunday dinner in the oven on their weekend break.
it's find if someone don't wish to use a electric to cook on but don't put other off thinking about the possibility just because it don't suite them.
And no you don't need a super yacht , our last boat was 42 foot and we lived full time on and out lastest yacht is 36 probably the size many here have .
Still trying to work out what this thread about , getting people to join up and put pressure on marina to change their gas supplier?
If so it's never going to happen .
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