Foulgers Gat?

[PetiteFleur]

I'm planning a trip to the Solent next week and cannot decide wether to go via Black Deep and Foulgers Gat or down Knock Deep and then to N Foreland, starting from River Deben. What have others done recently?

 

[shmoo]

We are off same way about the same time. Would have gone today but weekend looks a bit cold! Have done both the ways you mention. I think through Foulgers is a tad quicker. The two red and white buoys are just too far apart to see one from the other and you need to vector off the cross current. If you make sure you know which side of the "pass" you are on, and hence which way to go for deeper water its fine.

Coming back that way be careful because you see one of the Black Deep lateral buoys well before you see the red and white one.

Have a good trip and look out for us.

 

[shmoo]

Actually just checked tide timing and for Sun/Mon it looks as if the shortest trip time from Landguard to Dover would see us departing Landguard about 1800-1900z and at Foulgers around 2100-2200z so would be dark, which makes it a bit easier to spot the buoys I reckon.

 

[Phoenix of Hamble]

Definitely Foulgers Gat if the weather is fair..... you may not be able to use it for much longer if the Wind Farm starts getting constructed soon... so make the most of it!

 

[Cantata]

No wind farm construction there before 2011......even then, they are supposed to leave Foulgers open! We shall see...

 

[Twister_Ken]

What's a gat? Yes, I know in this case it's a shallow channel, but what's the origin of the word?

 

[Phoenix of Hamble]

Its a Dutch term I believe...... for a cut

 

[Phoenix of Hamble]

Yes, but bet it has periods of closure while the works are underway... and I suspect that it won't take long for the gat to drift into an unusable location and/or the changed water flows due to the turbine bases to close it up.... gone by 2012 my prediction....

 

[shmoo]

Old Norse 'gat' meaning opening?

 

[Phoenix of Hamble]

Best we dig out our copies of Beowulf and brush up on our Anglo Saxon....... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[jhr]

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What's a gat?

[/ QUOTE ] A theoretical postulate put forward by Schroedicker? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[shmoo]

Gat also means "way" as in Kirkgate, Eastgate, Briggate. It doesn't, I think, mean the same as the modern English word 'gate', which is a 'bar' so Micklegate Bar is not tautological, it means 'big way gate'.

IMHO etc.

 

[Spuddy]

Brush up on your "noir", Ken. Chandler must have called his gun a gat.

 

[Twister_Ken]

Yep, know that version, gat from Gatling.

So who was Mr/Ms Foulger?

 

[Koeketiene]

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Its a Dutch term I believe...... for a cut

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Only half right /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

It's Dutch for 'hole'
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[Koeketiene]

Knock Deep - every time.
Peace of mind well worth it.

 

[AntarcticPilot]

It's a fairly common surname in East Anglia. I assume it is derived from the same word as "Fuller" - i.e. one who processes cloth by washing it.

 

[arfa]

Interesting - I always think of Chop Gate in North Yorkshire which the locals pronounce "Chop Yat" - probably something to do with the Norse heritage up there as it is a village at the base of a valley

 

[shmoo]

I think Symonds Yat, Chop Gate and Foulgers Gat are all the same sort of feature - a pass or a way through. The spelling differences are accounted for by regional accents and because the names pre-date the standardization that came with printing.

 

[DanTribe]

A well known and very well liked east coast yachtsman, Brian Foulger.
Owned a beautiful racer Ailish for years and later a Seastream called, I believe, Shilia.
A glass to your memory Brian .