Fools

[Seastoke]

Ok you are heading up the Hamble near Hamble point it’s a spring tide running out say minimum 3 knots , guest falls overboard ,no life jacket. How do you deal with that. Remember how busy the river will be with other boats coming in .

 

[Elessar]

Ok you are heading up the Hamble near Hamble point it’s a spring tide running out say minimum 3 knots , guest falls overboard ,no life jacket. How do you deal with that. Remember how busy the river will be with other boats coming in .

I rescued two people exactly there last year. They hadn’t fallen off my boat. Me and two non boating novices on board my boat making it more challenging. Delivered them happily to the harbour master pontoon. What’s that got to do with anyone being a fool?

 

[Greg2]

Would I be wrong (as well as thread-drifting) to say it also seems quite premature? I've always been taught to wait until you're stepping up from the boat to the liferaft - perhaps bigger boats are different?

Yep, if you do sea survival training the clear guidance is that you step down into the life raft if at all possible and don’t go into the water. Anyone who has had to get into a life raft from the water will know why.

 

[Portofino]

Ok you are heading up the Hamble near Hamble point it’s a spring tide running out say minimum 3 knots , guest falls overboard ,no life jacket. How do you deal with that. Remember how busy the river will be with other boats coming in .

@Chris H …..Yeh you are right ……..dogs s got one ^

In Italy ( no appreciable tides )you suppose to have the orange ringo thingy to hand to chuck overboard.

^ Just grateful they are wearing anything I think a LV as well is pushing it .


But got this handy FWIW sea temp mid to late twenties. Half arsed I know but I gives piece of mind .

 

[julians]

Ok you are heading up the Hamble near Hamble point it’s a spring tide running out say minimum 3 knots , guest falls overboard ,no life jacket. How do you deal with that. Remember how busy the river will be with other boats coming in .

The usual man over board routine, essentially I'd go and pick them up. not sure what difference a life jacket makes in this scenario - on the assumption they can swim. But I dont know that location, so maybe there's something that means a lifejacket makes a difference?

If they cant swim - then yes , life jackets on at all times.

 

[Scubadoo]

Premier marinas? They are the best ladders I’ve found.

Some marinas have no ladders or ones that have to be deployed from the land.

I’ve been in a marina on the Thames where there were no ladders and there was a self help scheme, where boat owners with a boarding ladder that could be deployed from in the water tied a red ribbon to the ladder.

I know my own ladder saved the owner of a sea school who knew my boat. He fell in from another boat in February in an Itchen marina with no ladders. He swam to my boat and got himself out. He was alone and was not wearing a life jacket. If I was the RNLI I’d call that a life saved.

This something I have thought about, how to get back on the boat if I fall overboard either in a marina or particularly when single handed. It was straight forward on my boat as I could reach from the water and unfold the bathing platform boarding ladder. However this changed when I fitted a dinghy/tender on snap davits, there was no way of getting back on the boat as the ladder was blocked. The solution was to fit a rope ladder that is stored in a tube in the side of the bathing platform...this is perhaps something to consider. In my home berth (MDL), there are boarding ladders at regular intervals.

 

[sailorman]

You can mark me down as an idiot too. I often leave the berth minus life jacket. (Trader 47). I tend to decide on what I'm doing. And if you think logically.. Falling in etc. How many of us work on our boats on the decks etc or dare I say having a few drinks socialising on deck not wearing a life jacket? Which action has a greater likelihood of falling in (or bumping your head on something). I see the merits of life jackets and use one a lot but I don't like this culture we are in where we seem to want to scrutinise other people on what they're doing. Run your own race.. Unless it's something utterly ridiculous. I think we are gifted with intelligence on what is an absolute risk to other's safety compared to a situation that realistically is pretty normal behaviour.

So do you wear it when you are walking through the marina, on the pontoons ?

 

[jon and michie]

Yep, if you do sea survival training the clear guidance is that you step down into the life raft if at all possible and don’t go into the water. Anyone who has had to get into a life raft from the water will know why.

The usual man over board routine, essentially I'd go and pick them up. not sure what difference a life jacket makes in this scenario - on the assumption they can swim. But I dont know that location, so maybe there's something that means a lifejacket makes a difference?

If they cant swim - then yes , life jackets on at all times.

The usual man over board routine, essentially I'd go and pick them up. not sure what difference a life jacket makes in this scenario - on the assumption they can swim. But I dont know that location, so maybe there's something that means a lifejacket makes a difference?

If they cant swim - then yes , life jackets on at all times.

The Idea of a lifejacket is to get your head out of the water within 10 seconds or less from being submerged and tilting slightly backward.
doesnt matter how good a swimmer you are

 

[Elessar]

This something I have thought about, how to get back on the boat if I fall overboard either in a marina or particularly when single handed. It was straight forward on my boat as I could reach from the water and unfold the bathing platform boarding ladder. However this changed when I fitted a dinghy/tender on snap davits, there was no way of getting back on the boat as the ladder was blocked. The solution was to fit a rope ladder that is stored in a tube in the side of the bathing platform...this is perhaps something to consider. In my home berth (MDL), there are boarding ladders at regular intervals.

My boat ladder is accessible with the dinghy fortunately. On my S37 the ladder couldn’t be deployed from the water.

Ive not tried to use a rope ladder in a tube. They look a good idea but I’ve been told that they are hard/impossible to climb. Put that firmly in the “there was a bloke down the pub who’s coppercoat didn’t work” file for reliability of info though - has anyone actually tried one?

 

[benjenbav]

My boat ladder is accessible with the dinghy fortunately. On my S37 the ladder couldn’t be deployed from the water.

Ive not tried to use a rope ladder in a tube. They look a good idea but I’ve been told that they are hard/impossible to climb. Put that firmly in the “there was a bloke down the pub who’s coppercoat didn’t work” file for reliability of info though - has anyone actually tried one?

I think only monkeys and marines can climb rope ladders unless the foot of the contraption is fastened to something.

 

[Scubadoo]

It seemed okay when I tested on the hard after fitting, but not tried it from the water. It is better than nothing and yes I think some people may well struggle, I've climbed my bathing ladder with all my dive gear on so perhaps more experienced in getting out of the water. At least you have something to hold on to if you can't exit the water.

This is what fitted: Plastimo Recessed Safety Ladder Silver | Waveinn