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Perhaps people mentioning medication could give their background / experience?

Is Amlov a doctor or pharmacist for example?
 

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Yes or no would be good.
A quick Google and it confirms that Flamazine has a soothing effect. Good enough for me?
Without wishing to get side tracked - as I pointed out so would many other creams. Antibiotics do not have any soothing effects and any benefit of the cream would be some time in the future in the prevention of either colonisation or infection of the burn.
 

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Without wishing to get side tracked - as I pointed out so would many other creams. Antibiotics do not have any soothing effects and any benefit of the cream would be some time in the future in the prevention of either colonisation or infection of the burn.
It's a burn specific antibiotic for burns not a tooth ache. Everything you find when you Google it says it's for burns but in addition it can treat other ailments. What point are you trying to make? If there is something better to carry onboard for burns then tell us. If you are medical then tells us or are are you simply quoting Google searches?
 

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There's a great US product called BurnJel that cools, creates a protective layer and kills pain.
They also sell it in the UK, but with the pain relief removed.
 

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Pharmacist friend of mine said that I should wrap burns & the like in cling film. It seals the area. I used rolls 100 mm *100m in my business, so I carry a spare roll on board. It could be used to bind anything, just by wrapping around several times.

Worth noting, I think, that the cling film should be clean - discard the first couple of layers off the roll - and should be used to loosely cover the affected area. The aim is to have a loose cover to keep infection out but to leave room for any swelling/blistering which might occur.
 

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Perhaps people mentioning medication could give their background / experience?

Is Amlov a doctor or pharmacist for example?

I also would only want to take advice from a Medically Trained Person.

Someone asked about Ships Captains Medical Guide .... I have that book ... I've actually had occasion to use that book on a number of occasions on ships. Do I recc'd average Yottie have it ? Actually no. I suggest the VHF radio call to CG is much more use for average Yottie who does not travel so far offshore.
If a deep sea venturer - then yes as you are likely on your own unless you have long range radio / satcoms gear.
 

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My wife is a physiotherapists. One of her best friends is a district nurse and another is a doctor. They provided lots of the contents for the first aid kit. Our first aid kit needs a forklift to move it! We decided we needed additional stuff for the Atlanic crossings. Antibiotics, burns cream, etc when you know you won't have help at hand and Superglue.
3 years ago I got a nasty head wound on the boat. Two deep gashes l0mm apart. No way it could be stitched. Super glue is something you should carry in the first aid kit. She tied my hair over the wound and Superglued it together. I had a terrible hairdoo for a while but it healed well. You can buy the blue medical Superglue but normal Superglue works just fine. They are both as sterile as each other but the proper stuff doesn't sting when you apply it.
We always carry some. Steristrips will do a similar job if you are short of hair?
 

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Talking of Steristrips... If your first aid kits came with Microporous tape, don't rely on their being very much on the included roll. It might only be 50cm or so... just enough to tick the box...

Worthwhile adding a few additional rolls just to be sure.

How about eye washes or would you all rely on tank or bottled water to rinse eyes?

Sterile saline eye rinse capsules only cost pennies...

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You always make up your own first aid kit. If your boat is 'Coded' you place whatever they require on board, but never use it.

The first instructor I had was a A&E doctor at the Belford Hospital in Fort William and really good, he had a lot of practical experience of patching up mountaineers.

The guy on the refresher nine years ago was bloody brilliant, having just come back from at least one tour of Afghanistan as a Para battlefield paramedic. Totally changed the way I looked at my first aid kit.

I need to drag myself through another refresher in Feb 23.
Exactly this!
I always tell my customers that the cat 'c' FAK is just for show when the surveyors are onboard and to make up their own kit as they see fit.
 

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Worth noting, I think, that the cling film should be clean - discard the first couple of layers off the roll…

I think you can buy sterile clingfilm. It’s expensive but when I need to find weird medical things I go to spservices


You can buy the blue medical Superglue but normal Superglue works just fine. They are both as sterile as each other but the proper stuff doesn't sting when you apply it

For lightweight medical kits for the stuff I do, superglue is one of my favourite items.

I’ve always found the proper stuff to be quite easy to get hold of. I typically ask medics for it when I come across them casually and they’re quite keen to nick a bit from work for me!

The advantages I’ve found with the proper medical stuff is it comes in a hard tube rather than soft and burstable, and it’s slightly easier to use. There isn’t much in a tube tho.
 

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I have used superglue (because I was not going to stitch myself).

A nasty deep cut on a finger joint. I cleaned it (tincture of iodine) then I just closed the finger to close the wound and glued the cut shut. Then taped finger so it could not open.

Saved a lot if trouble. 2 weeks later, good as new.

I do wonder about 'regular' superglue though. It had the words "cyano..." something on the tube... sounds too much like cyanide!

Still it worked and not even a scar.

Best to carry anti-bonding superglue too I would suggest. I always buy it when I buy superglue... just in case.
 

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I have used superglue (because I was not going to stitch myself).

A nasty deep cut on a finger joint. I cleaned it (tincture of iodine) then I just closed the finger to close the wound and glued the cut shut. Then taped finger so it could not open.

Saved a lot if trouble. 2 weeks later, good as new.

I do wonder about 'regular' superglue though. It had the words "cyano..." something on the tube... sounds too much like cyanide!

Still it worked and not even a scar.

Best to carry anti-bonding superglue too I would suggest. I always buy it when I buy superglue... just in case.


Super Glue ... commonly termed CA.

CA derived from its correct name : Cyanoacrylate

It may interest people to know there are not only versions that have different setting durations and viscosity's .... but also to suit different materials.
ie try to use for glueing Foam and it will melt the foam ..... try it on clear plastic such as used on blister packs ... it will turn it white and brittle. So they have created a Foam Safe variety ... as good but does not attack foam and plastics.
 

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Super Glue ... commonly termed CA.

CA derived from its correct name : Cyanoacrylate

It may interest people to know there are not only versions that have different setting durations and viscosity's .... but also to suit different materials.
ie try to use for glueing Foam and it will melt the foam ..... try it on clear plastic such as used on blister packs ... it will turn it white and brittle. So they have created a Foam Safe variety ... as good but does not attack foam and plastics.
Exactly.

So the stuff designed for humans may be safer than the stuff I used to glue my finger?

I will now attempt to find a supplier of 'human' super glue. Wish me luck.
 
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