Escape on a 20 footer

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Hi Adrain,

Just to let you know it's not all fun - I have little sailing experience (day skipper) mainly at weekends since September last year when I bought Cygnet and a little previously. There's a fair amount of paper work to get sorted CEVNI, ICC, VHF licence, Insurance, Registration, VAT docs etc - I've got a lot of this still to do with only about 40 days to go.

We sailed this weekend to the Eddystone lighthouse stopping off at Salcombe on the way back. We seemed to get there quite quickly sailing most of the way. On the way back we were close hauled and making about 6 knots over the ground (not bad for a 20 footer), but the water level on the port side was consistently up to the winch and at times above the window. There was plently of weatherhelm which made for tired arms, but releasing the main to reduce this also reduced speed - and is less exhilerating. However a trip below by Andy revealed we'd taken on board a far amount of water, so sailing at this angle was not a viable option. The weather deteriorated and we were forced to use the outboard motor (our only mechanical means of propulsion) to take us from the Mew Stone back to Salcombe. We could have opted to go to Plymouth but that would have certainly made us late for work on Monday. The engine pushed us at about 2.5 to 4 knots through a fairly rough sea east towards Salcombe - we were soaked through, the hand held gps was using batteres up like no tomorrow. Had the engine failed or were we to have run out of petrol we'd have had to sail south in circuits until day break as, for my experience the sea was too rough to anchor and we'd have had to get back to Brixham as I'm not confident enough to attempt to sail into either Salcombe or Dartmouth. Not a thought I relished. Fate smiled upon us and at about 11:30pm we moored to a visitors bouy in Salcombe after a very long, and latterly tortuous day. I had to sleep in a survival suit as my sleeping bag was soaked - the tomato soup we had heated up on the meths burner was the best you've ever tasted.

This morning we motor sailed to Dartmouth across Start Point - the sea was pretty rough for a 20 footer, but rough seas on a sunny day, rather than a cold night are much more appealing. The gps stopped working - inspection showed a green build up between two terminals on the pc link port - possibly caused by some sort of electrolysis, may be explaining the excessive battery consumption. Thank heavens it didn't duff out the night before. After a lot of crashing and banging we got into Dartmouth and took over most of a pontoon with our wet kit, cushions etc, and removed all the water from the boat.

Writing this now I ask myself why, but the answer will be found in the comfort I'll feel tonight in a proper bed. We should all re-establish the baseline from time to time. Conversely, in the med with flatter seas warm enough to swin in, sleeping in hammocks and the only protective clothing necessary being a sun hat, I don't think comfort will be an issue!

Sorry to have droned on but there's a lot of lessons in the above and in the same way that I like to learn from others I like to share my own experiences.

Mainly there's no such word as can't, 18 foot is plenty - let me know when you go - we can meet up and I'll buy you a beer.

Mat
 

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Good account!

Really enjoyed reading this, which brought back vivid memories of when I had a 20ft bilge keeler. Such a small boat puts you in very close contact with the elements, without much by way of shelter where you can recuperate for your next watch. It might be worth writing up your mini-cruise for YM.
 
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I've read all this with great interest. Most of the posts seem to be of the "go for it!" variety but not too full on the practical aspects.

Me & a girl-friend took my 22 footer through the french canals to the Med in '88 and stuffed it to the gills with all sorts of "useful" things, including a mains-powered sewing machine, keyboard organ (for those quiet nights) and lots of other stuff. We nearly took took the sax too! After 6 months, I freighted nearly 1/2 ton of "useful" stuff back to England. Now the boat sails properly again ;^) It's been along the Med coast to Italy, France, Spain, now its in the Balearics. Little boats can have very long legs.

Don't take this negatively but I suggest you reconsider taking the bicycles (you won't have room & you can always walk, bus etc). Forget the laptop & all things hi-tech that are not designed for this environment. They will pack up the first time you get them wet and cannot be fixed. Instead take a reasonable but cheap 35mm camera, keep a diary or notebook (use an internet cafe to "file" you story & scan your photos), get a pocket SW radio that can receive the weather on SSB. Put your delicate things in a zip-lock bag. Think about a blow up dinghy, about how to carry 5+ gallons of fuel and 10+ gallons of fresh water. These are the useful things on a very small boat. Amazing how quick the water will run out if you shower aboard!

Have a look at the canal routes through central France (in at R.Seine, out at the Golf of Fos (nr Marseille). Saves a lot of time and you won't be battered by the Atlantic rollers all the way to Gib. Good luck.
 

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Having bought a 1975, Sygnet 20 sailing boat (called "Cygnet"), a friend and myself (Andy and Mat) are planning to leave from Torbay on 6th May 2002 (May Day!) for St Malo, use the canals to cut off Brittany, down the west coast of France and then use the canals to get to the Med. There's no detailed itinary or timescale to adhere to, but the plan is to head east and eventually end up in Turkey at which point we'll make a decision to either continue on or head back.

20 foot is we know a very small vessel to be living on, however we can't wait to get going. Andy is no stranger to leaving the rat-race, having last year cycled nearly 6,000 miles from Calais to Turkey, only to be run over by a tractor, breaking legs, pelvis & internal damage etc. Hopefully he'll have better luck this time.

We understand the cramped conditions and slow speed over the ground would make the trip tedious for many, but for us that's all part of the adventure. However, we would prefer to avoid any obvious pitfalls that may detract from the enjoyment trip, e.g. paperwork not being in order, local etiquette, safety issues, mandatory equipment etc and we would welcome any advice anyone has to offer.

There's little time left before we go (about 53 days), but no-one's counting. The boat has a bilge keel and draws 2 feet.

Mat & Andy
Brought back very happy memories of sailng a 20fter quite a few decades ago 4 of us but not for more than a week at a time. Properly organized you dont need bigger for two but do try to be ruthless as far as unneccesary items are concerned-do you really need it ? It is not long since we all used to sail across Biscay without any electronics (they weren't available). Go and enjoy, the Canals are great.
 

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Brought back very happy memories of sailng a 20fter quite a few decades ago 4 of us but not for more than a week at a time. Properly organized you dont need bigger for two but do try to be ruthless as far as unneccesary items are concerned-do you really need it ? It is not long since we all used to sail across Biscay without any electronics (they weren't available). Go and enjoy, the Canals are great.

If this thread was a person born on the day it was posted, they would soon be enjoying their first legal drink in little over a fortnight!

I suspect the OP will have been and returned from their great adventure by now (Or never left the harbour)
 

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If this thread was a person born on the day it was posted, they would soon be enjoying their first legal drink in little over a fortnight!

I suspect the OP will have been and returned from their great adventure by now (Or never left the harbour)
Was this really 18 years ago? As I recall Mat sailed as far as southern Brittany, but broke the mast on Cygnet and abandoned the boat somewhere there. Heard no more from him so I assume that was that.
 
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