Ending the hostility - raggies v stinkies

[Madhatter]

TCM, you do have a point but it really has very little to do with the type of craft used but the person using it, and no matter what craft they use they will still be arse-ole's.
I live in an area where there are only a few of each class of craft so we all get along fine ( even the a-hole's are tolerated) it would appear that numbers have a lot to do with the "conflicts"
I would like to expand on this but I have to go and work to help pay for my "fun craft"

 

[Salty John]

What do you think?

I think this is a magnificent troll.

After a lifetime of sailing I bought a trawler style power boat. We weren't long into the maiden voyage, on a crowded Galviston Bay, when I said to the crew:
"I've only been a stinkpotter for an hour and I hate these bloody raggies already".

I've since gone back to sail and I'm probably more considerate to stinkpotters in the assertion of my special rights as a raggie.

 

[gjgm]

Bit curious TCM.. do you find that this is a global thing, or Uk, or ...?
The only place I really experience it is in the Solent, and only then on the water (ie not the bar, marina etc).
I also think it depends on how big your boat is compared to their boat. When I had a little run around, it was the big flybridges that seemed inconsiderate. Now I have something a little bigger, it is ribs in anchorages and saily-boats who cant be a**ed to give a wave of thanks.
But I havent come across any issue where there is more water and less boats.

 

[rotrax]

Thanks anyway for your thoughtful comment

My pleasure-I have been told I can be a little blunt on ocaision.

 

[prv]

I most certainly have not said that I'm against all motor boats or that their owners are chavs; I was referring to jetski's in that remark as is quite plain for anyone sad enough to go back and re-read it.

"...some chav in a power boat..."

You don't even know you're doing it

Pete

 

[blueglass]

tcm,
the prejudice against mobos stems from the air of assumed superiority that (many, not all) raggies affect. I agree with the sentiments in the OP but even this is littered with slightly immodest examples of that mindset.
Yachties should refrain from assuming superior skills just because they have sails, when they know nothing about the skipper of the approaching mobo. He may well be the cox of a Severn Class on a day off.

 

[Frankie-H]

I wish I could say I am surprised at this thread but Oh No here we go again. I am too simple to understand when the Trolls start to frolic around the forum. I tend to take everything too seriously. I was almost sure that the OP was serious. The I got to line 5 and started to drop off.

I once made the mistake of using capitals to ilustrate my deep felt belief.Everybody said I was shouting. I didn't realise and won't make that mistake again.

So here goes. Please imagine virtual capital letters.

It, IMHO, and after too many years of floating about in boats. Has nothing to do with MoBos or raggies. It has everything to do with prats. There are WAFI prats and there are Mobo prats. In this marina we have a large number of both. Actually there are more raggy prats than the others.

I would sincerely hope that none of the above mentioned prats are ever considered to be members of my tribe of highly quallified, ever friendly, charming, super helpfull, good looking, considerate, knowledgeable.......

 

[Seajet]

"...some chav in a power boat..."

You don't even know you're doing it

Pete

True it was a throw-away comment, but I said 'some chav in a ' so it's the type of person I was referring to, not the type of boat !

I seem to need to spoon feed some people lessons in English or things I say are distorted - see the 'drowning at Studland' thread ...

I commented there that a lifejacket alone wouldn't have saved the bloke, he needed a means of attracting attention as he drifted out into a rough wild sea in the dark; next thing someone said ' as you're suggesting not to wear a lifejacket as you'll die anyway '....!

I know it's against forum unspoken rules but if you feel like having a go at me at least try to read and understand what I said first.

 

[ProMariner]

Simple.

Live and let live.

There but by the grace of god, go I.

If we could all simply agree to hate Audi drivers and caravaners, the MCA, corrupt cops, and inept career politicians, and leave everyone else alone, the world would be a much nicer place (IMHO).

 

[Lakesailor]

I know it's against forum unspoken rules but if you feel like having a go at me at least try to read and understand what I said first.

That contravenes another unspoken Forum Rule which requires one to take everything you read at face value, and then misunderstand that.

 

[photodog]

That contravenes another unspoken Forum Rule which requires one to take everything you read at face value, and then misunderstand that.

And that keeps us from being like the pbo forum... Were everything is spoken in math.

 

[Lakesailor]

Hate to be picky, but that would be "maths"

When in Rome....etc.

 

[Blueboatman]

Faced with the choice of listening to amateur cat strangling (aboard a cat, too) and hearing all around the boing boing bump of semi planing mobobs bouncing along on an otherwise peaceful day, I am sure the Pacific wandering raggedly rigged seagypsy OP will understand the significance of choosing the lesser of two weevils...

On the mobo forum they Do seem able to go 100 or 200 post counts without the degenerative scuttlebutt abuse. Hmmm

 

[maby]

tcm,
the prejudice against mobos stems from the air of assumed superiority that (many, not all) raggies affect. I agree with the sentiments in the OP but even this is littered with slightly immodest examples of that mindset.
Yachties should refrain from assuming superior skills just because they have sails, when they know nothing about the skipper of the approaching mobo. He may well be the cox of a Severn Class on a day off.

That may be true of some, but I have no predjudice against mobos - just an irritation at the inability that some seem to have to stick to speed limits. We have an 8 knot limit along a lot of the Medway, but few mobo owners seem to be aware of it.

 

[Lakesailor]

On the mobo forum they Do seem able to go 100 or 200 post counts without the degenerative scuttlebutt abuse. Hmmm

That's because they are all figuratively polishing each other's topsides.

 

[blueglass]

maby - Be justifiably irritated as I would.
Don't forget that moored/anchored or slow moving law abiding mobos are affected by wash just like yachts, (probably more so without a keel) and I for one am equally irritated by it.

 

[Chrusty 1]

Mutley (Frankie-H) said.....

"I would sincerely hope that none of the above mentioned prats are ever considered to be members of my tribe of highly quallified, ever friendly, charming, super helpfull, good looking, considerate, knowledgeable..............................Knobheads? )

I'll just bugger off now then!

 

[Chrusty 1]

I wonder, (as I think someone else alluded to), if it is a case of crowded waters=shortest fuses? Here in my part of the Bristol Channel, we just don't get these problems, but then raggies far outweigh mobos by a Devon mile. Our drying harbours just don't suit 'em see.

 

[Ripster]

I wonder, (as I think someone else alluded to), if it is a case of crowded waters=shortest fuses?

I think that is right. Try Chi Harbour entrance on a Sunny day in Aug - you can sense the tension as all types of boats jostle for position within yards of each other and Dinghy racers try to get across the main flow under sail.

 

[benjenbav]

I think that is right. Try Chi Harbour entrance on a Sunny day in Aug - you can sense the tension as all types of boats jostle for position within yards of each other and Dinghy racers try to get across the main flow under sail.

August...

Sunny day...

I assume you are speaking metaphorically.