Emergency start packs ?

[Ian_Edwards]

I have one as in #2.
It has started both my old Subaru 2L diesel and the 2.2L Yanmar 4jh4e.
I've only needed it twice in 4, perhaps 5 years, but it saved a lot of hassle.

 

[Refueler]

I have one as in #2.
It has started both my old Subaru 2L diesel and the 2.2L Yanmar 4jh4e.
I've only needed it twice in 4, perhaps 5 years, but it saved a lot of hassle.

Thats good to know ... tks

 

[Snowgoose-1]

Worth a punt ?
Ultimate Speed Portable Jump Starter with Power Bank -

 

[Refueler]

Bought one to test ....

https://www.frog.ee/en/product/3323...rnal-battery-12000mah-5v3a-paak-current-1000a

Worth a punt ... at that price - if it works - may buy more and station strategically !

 

[Snowgoose-1]

At that price, I will try out the LIDL one and report back. The game changer is the battery construction that will hold a charge over a long period . On the boat or car boot. it can sit there without needing much attention. The usb charging format is also a plus for me.

 

[Refueler]

At that price, I will try out the LIDL one and report back. The game changer is the battery construction that will hold a charge over a long period . On the boat or car boot. it can sit there without needing much attention. The usb charging format is also a plus for me.

Unlike Lead Acid .... Lithium batterys prefer to be used ... and not left full charged idle. Yes you read about LiXX and so on can stand - but the fact is that Li batts do suffer if left full charged ... the difference is that some forms of Li can be left for much longer ...

That reminds me ! My E-Scooter needs to be discharged partly as its snow and ice out there ... and it will be left in storage for significant time.

 

[Plum]

That reminds me ! My E-Scooter needs to be discharged partly as its snow and ice out there ... and it will be left in storage for significant time.

No winter studded tyres on your e-scooter?

 

[Snowgoose-1]

Unlike Lead Acid .... Lithium batterys prefer to be used ... and not left full charged idle. Yes you read about LiXX and so on can stand - but the fact is that Li batts do suffer if left full charged ... the difference is that some forms of Li can be left for much longer ...

That reminds me ! My E-Scooter needs to be discharged partly as its snow and ice out there ... and it will be left in storage for significant time.

I notice that the Lidl one has a LiFepo4 battery. Very small footprint which is nice for small boats. Can also be used as a power pack for tablets and smartphones.

 

[mullet]

I also have a NOCO one. A few things it's worth keeping in mind:

• Their internal battery capacity is not huge. They work (I assume) by using capacitors to give the starter a big jolt. They do this very effectively and will start an otherwise healthy vehicle several times on a single charge.
• Where people run into trouble is when their engine won't start (due to mechanical or fuel issues) and they run down its battery trying to get it to go - then they find the booster pack will only turn it over a handful of times before it is depleted. In short: great if your battery is flat because it's knackered or you left your car's lights on (or someone forgot about the 1-2-both switch), no good if your battery is flat due (indirectly) to a mechanical problem. AFAIK they aren't marketed as a supplementary battery but that doesn't stop plenty of people having the misplaced expectation that they are.
• Mine gets more use for inflating my dinghy (with a 12v Rule pump) than anything else. I used to haul around a 12v car battery for this, the NOCO is enormously more convenient and will do a couple of full inflation/deflation cycles on a charge. Also occasionally for charging phones.

I wouldn't be without mine on the boat, I view it as useful backup if both starter and engine batteries get accidentally discharged - then I'd be able to start the engine and get some charge to run plotter and instruments. Hasn't happened yet but I wouldn't rule out anything that could be a consequence of stupidity or sleep deprivation.

 

[Refueler]

I've been carrying my old Halfords style SLA starter pack as a backup on the boat at times ... but its bulky ....

Last few days - that old SLA unit been used to start my Volvo XC70 and Opel Movano Truck - both of which have stood too long ...

 

[Neeves]

How do you actually use these? Just put the crocodile clips on the starter battery terminals?

Far more complicated than that - you need to turn on the ignition, as you would to start the car - so quite sophisticated

Jonathan

 

[Roberto]

Worth a punt ?
Ultimate Speed Portable Jump Starter with Power Bank -

How is it charged?
The specifications say 'Power adapter not included'

 

[mullet]

How is it charged?

With a USB-C cable.

 

[Roberto]

With a USB-C cable.

Thank you. Oh now I see it I did not enlarge the picture, there is one USB C port marked 'Input'

 

[DanTribe]

How are these gadgets charged?
Can they be kept on a maintenance charge from 12volt battery or do they need periodic mains top up?
This probably qualifies as a numpty question.

 

[RogerJolly]

Worth a punt ?
Ultimate Speed Portable Jump Starter with Power Bank -

Wonder if it's got that feature where it won't deliver power if no voltage detected (dead flat battery), with possibly an override option.

Maybe there's somewhere to get more details over and above the Lidl offers page?

 

[38mess]

Sorry I haven't read the whole thread but has anyone used a jump starter pack that you plug into the cigarette output? I was looking at one the other day in a car parts place and I can't imagine that starting my diesel.

 

[mrangry]

I have a Noco Boost GB70 and although notthe cheapest it has started my 3.0d X5 on numerous occasions in sub zero temperatures. I take it with me when out on the boat but as yet not had to use it.

 

[Refueler]

Sorry I haven't read the whole thread but has anyone used a jump starter pack that you plug into the cigarette output? I was looking at one the other day in a car parts place and I can't imagine that starting my diesel.

The only way that can ever work is by the Jump pack providing a charge to the battery .... a ciggy socket is only capable of max 10A and if you did that for any length of time - either fuse would blow - or socket / plug would suffer.

So only way that works is it would charge your cars battery - hopefully enough to get it to start ... BUT I would be very surprised if it worked ..

There are of course Solar maintenance trickle panels you can plug into ciggy sockets to keep batts alive ... I used one years ago on my UK car when it stood for months.

 

[Refueler]