Electric scooters!

Drifting the thread slightly- Shopping by e-scooter, how do you secure it so it's there and complete you come back for it?

It's probably small enough for you to fold up an stick in the shopping trolley (assuming a provisioning run to the big store). Stick it under your arm otherwise, and hope security/staff don't get upset. Call a taxi for the trip back. Don't these e-scooters come with carry bags?
 
What is the difference between 'illegal' and 'technically illegal' which was quoted above? Has obeying the law become a voluntary matter?
 
That has b..g...d that thread drift then :(
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Good the hear your take on E_Bikes though .(y)

The only issue I had with E_Bikes when they first came out was judgement of their speed
come towards you in a car. Say car coming out of minor road to main road. The sub conscious makes a decision what is a normal speed for a push bike but E_Bikes obviously can go faster than expected sometimes.
 
Drifting the thread slightly- Shopping by e-scooter, how do you secure it so it's there and complete you come back for it?

With the hire ones, you can pause your ride in the app. The scooter remains allocated to you (and still billing, I assume) but the motor is locked so someone can’t wheel it away. They’re pretty heavy to try to carry.

Pete
 
Personally I think that proper mot and registration as mopeds is the way to go. Then they can have realistic performance, beat the speeds of city traffic but not run on pavement.
Realistic performance? Beat the speeds of city traffic? Well on that one it depends on what speed you consider city traffic travels at. Sometimes 30MPH sometimes zero. :(
Do you not think 15.5 MPH is fast enough for an e scooter? If they were allowed to go any faster then accidents would certainly rise.. I consider that an e scooter is less stable than a cycle. Whilst the user is in a standing position, they can still be thrown forwards with considerable force.
 
These modern scooters are for whimps. When I was a kid my dad found a couple of large ball races. Put a piece of wood through each for axles. For the foot plate he had a board with a fork where the rear wheel went. He screwed the axles under the fork. At the front a piece set upwards with a triangular support. The front section was a board with a fork for the bottom ball race & a piece of wood the other end for a handle. The 2 parts were connected with 5 large staples 2 on the front 3 on the upright of the foot plate with a long thin bolt placed through to form a hinge.( Staples later modified with eye bolts)
The ball races were fantastic wheels. They made sparks on the pavement & I could skid in the shopping mall with my mates & the noise as I went over the paving slabs warned pedestrians to get out of the way
Fantastic fun:D
& here I am complaining about Yoof of today scooting on the pavement :unsure: :rolleyes:
 
e-scooters are common here in Cascais, Portugal. In fact they are even promoted by the town council - you simply use an app to unlock them, use it and leave it where you want. 1 Euro basic charge and 19 cents per minute thereafter. The app shows you the location of all available scooters and their state of charge (in km) so you can choose the nearest one to you. I think the UK is a long way behind by taking such a conservative and regulatory approach to e-scooters.
 
e-scooters are common here in Cascais, Portugal. In fact they are even promoted by the town council - you simply use an app to unlock them, use it and leave it where you want. 1 Euro basic charge and 19 cents per minute thereafter. The app shows you the location of all available scooters and their state of charge (in km) so you can choose the nearest one to you. I think the UK is a long way behind by taking such a conservative and regulatory approach to e-scooters.

Similar here in Ventspils .... the charges go on your mobile phone bill
 
This is in my lazaret



It’s a go anywhere, very stable e scooter. The hook that I put on the handle bar stem can hold two shopping bags, that plus a backpack means I can get all the shopping I need in one go. For larger items, hot pizza, water bottles, dog, I also carry this folding trailer.
The only downside of my hugely capable, off road, long range folding scooter is that it’s huge and heavy. Very heavy (25 kg).
But of course, much lighter ones are available.

Do you put the dog in their trailer with the food.
 
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Do you put the dog in their trailer as the food.
One evening I went to pick up a couple of pizzas on my e-scooter. It turned into a disaster! I mean, where do you put them? I nearly came off a couple of times and did a wheelie trying to hold on to the pizza boxes. In the end the pizzas arrived hot but upside down and folded over calzone style. So I vowed to solve the problem, I experimented with bike racks and in the end settled on the far more expensive option of a folding bike trailer. Transporting her dog was how I sold it to the wife
 
e-scooters are common here in Cascais, Portugal. In fact they are even promoted by the town council - you simply use an app to unlock them, use it and leave it where you want. 1 Euro basic charge and 19 cents per minute thereafter. The app shows you the location of all available scooters and their state of charge (in km) so you can choose the nearest one to you. I think the UK is a long way behind by taking such a conservative and regulatory approach to e-scooters.

It‘s exactly the same here in Southampton and Portsmouth (I use the scooters in both) with the critical difference that they have to be picked up from and left in designated racks. Apparently this was due to fear of them being left lying around and tripping people up. It does detract from the experience a bit, as you can’t simply arrive at your destination but have to plan for the nearest parking rack and then walk the last bit, sometimes in the opposite direction. Despite this limit I do find them quite useful.

Pete
 
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Good the hear your take on E_Bikes though .(y)

The only issue I had with E_Bikes when they first came out was judgement of their speed
come towards you in a car. Say car coming out of minor road to main road. The sub conscious makes a decision what is a normal speed for a push bike but E_Bikes obviously can go faster than expected sometimes.

Speed shouldn't have been a consideration, certainly not on commercial e-bikes, as the power assistance is only available to 20mph, which is far less than an averagely fit adult can achieve on a road bike on the right terrain. It would take a very fit rider could push an e-bike to 28mph on the flat, due to the extra weight over the battery pack, motor and control electronics. There is no accounting for madmen who radically mod their rides, though, but I'd count them as rare.
 
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