Dylan, you were right.
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gerry99
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Seajet
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Nathan,
I agree with you and Dylan re FUN !
I once mistakenly sold my Anderson 22, but found even a fairly rapid Carter 30 was simply not so much fun and not so rewarding, while being built to considerably lower standards so a constant worry.
My father had bought a Centaur but didn't get on with her, a very good functional cruiser but no feel, no fun.
I sold the Carter and bought my original A22 back, a bonus was that she'd been stored ashore so was dry for gelshielding, also she was out of the way during the October 1987 Hurricane which decimated our club boats.
Now even when I win the lottery the Anderson stays, as flagship of a little fleet when that lottery thing happens.
I agree with you and Dylan re FUN !
I once mistakenly sold my Anderson 22, but found even a fairly rapid Carter 30 was simply not so much fun and not so rewarding, while being built to considerably lower standards so a constant worry.
My father had bought a Centaur but didn't get on with her, a very good functional cruiser but no feel, no fun.
I sold the Carter and bought my original A22 back, a bonus was that she'd been stored ashore so was dry for gelshielding, also she was out of the way during the October 1987 Hurricane which decimated our club boats.
Now even when I win the lottery the Anderson stays, as flagship of a little fleet when that lottery thing happens.
gregcope
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I have a Co32 which has similar handling characteristics as you Nic.
Reference mooring - practice, practice, practice!
I used to have the fear. With some practice I am now happy to single hand into a marina in any conditions. Last year I did that in the dark, about a F7 with tide. Previously i would have bottled out. I was quite chuffed.
So, set a day to practice what you think is your weakness to gain confidence, it will pay back.
Reference mooring - practice, practice, practice!
I used to have the fear. With some practice I am now happy to single hand into a marina in any conditions. Last year I did that in the dark, about a F7 with tide. Previously i would have bottled out. I was quite chuffed.
So, set a day to practice what you think is your weakness to gain confidence, it will pay back.
Seajet
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There's a lot to be said for reversing into marina berths - as the bow pays off downwind - but maybe practice first.
Even on my A22 I have a sticker on the vertical part of the main hatch right in front of me showing prop throw, with arrows to starboard if in ahead gear, port if going astern, as an aide memoire when under pressure.
I was reminded of this when on a friends' Centaur the other day, even in ahead gear at a touch more than idle the ' paddlewheel effect ' of the big 3 blade prop made berthing awkward for the owner on his first trip.
Even on my A22 I have a sticker on the vertical part of the main hatch right in front of me showing prop throw, with arrows to starboard if in ahead gear, port if going astern, as an aide memoire when under pressure.
I was reminded of this when on a friends' Centaur the other day, even in ahead gear at a touch more than idle the ' paddlewheel effect ' of the big 3 blade prop made berthing awkward for the owner on his first trip.
Rivers & creeks
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shaunksb
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I was told that berthing a boat is very similar to parachuting from a plane.
All the damage is done in the last 6 feet...
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nathanlee
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Done this three or four times. In the spirit of any landing you walk away from is a successful one - they were successful, but only because there wasn't another boat next to me, and because I jumped ashore and warped her in. Basically, all three times I totally messed it up. Actually, to be completely honest, I don't think I've tried going in forward yet. Perhaps that's the key. I intend to do lots of practising this weekend... in a big empty berth, pre filled with copious fenderage.
Athene V30
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I am sorry to contradict but the handling of a longish fin such as a Contessa 32 and true long keel as on a Nic 32 / Cutlass and many others is not similar. Having sailed Co32s in my 20s I never had any worry of handling under power. Yes there is prop walk of course but that can be your friend. Not tried a Nic under power but as the underwater lines are very similar to my Cutlass I expect it is the same - you get prop walk but then once you have way on you do not get steerage astern. Stern weathercocks to wind and if there is any current that will take the keel. So unless your berth is upwind I wouldn't try going in astern. The only way to get any directional control is bursts of ahead to turn to starboard.
Going in ahead is easy, as slow as you can to maintain steerage - just limited stopping power so be ready with midships line.
However I agree with practice, practice, practice and lots of fenders both sides and lines both sides so you have flexibility!
nathanlee
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Haha. Far too cocky. I like it.
I must say, you've all been exceptionally decent on this thread. I thought I was going to get ripped in to a bit, but it's been remarkably useful, and confident building to hear a lot of you have suffered the same worries at one point.
rwoofer
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When I first started and I saw the next berth was full I usually made a hash of things trying to get into my berth. I soon learnt it was far better to come alongside my neighbour in a planned way (with fenders etc.) and then warp in. My neighbour was present one time and appreciated that I did things deliberately using his boat rather than risk some damage when I missed a cleat.
You soon start to realise that you make decisions based on risk of balls-up, which sometimes means you do things unconventionally. I once approached a pontoon stern first, dropped the stern line over a pontoon cleat and then in my own speed warped the bow round and in. People looked at me strangely (like what is he doing?), but afterwards said how easy it looked.
Kurrawong_Kid
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A friend of mine put a 6 horse outboard on the stern of his Vega. Solved the marina problem and provided an emergency motor to complement the tiller
Seajet
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BUT it would be useless in waves with the prop pitching out of the water, dangerous to refuel - if internal tank - weight in the wrong place, prop thrust aft of the rudder so no help and when rafted an attraction for shore line warps to whip off any protruding bits like choke and throttle !
Seajet
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Nathan,
if singlehanded the spring line from bow ( hopefully fairlead aft of that ) and cleat on the pontoon will be helpfull along with a boathook but at as a slow speed so as not your bringiing the bow in.
Though at places like the otherwise lovely Emsworth marina people trundle into the very narrow berths and get surprised - with microscopic finger pontoons and a ring on the end not a cleat, unless there's a boat tied the other side it's a very wobbly crawling job, - seriousy, like ' it's a Knockout ' it's worth a prize if one can make it to the end to take a line - so in places like that there will only be disappointment followed by a crash landing if hoping to loop a line over a cleat on the way in, the boathook is always a friend.
if singlehanded the spring line from bow ( hopefully fairlead aft of that ) and cleat on the pontoon will be helpfull along with a boathook but at as a slow speed so as not your bringiing the bow in.
Though at places like the otherwise lovely Emsworth marina people trundle into the very narrow berths and get surprised - with microscopic finger pontoons and a ring on the end not a cleat, unless there's a boat tied the other side it's a very wobbly crawling job, - seriousy, like ' it's a Knockout ' it's worth a prize if one can make it to the end to take a line - so in places like that there will only be disappointment followed by a crash landing if hoping to loop a line over a cleat on the way in, the boathook is always a friend.
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