Dylan hits the big time

[lpdsn]

I've no idea what motivation JD had for posting the lyrics and am not making any assumptions about that ..... however, the lyrics were not there when he made the post so must have been added later. I am stuggling to find them "quite comical" or anywhere near any "truth" that I am aware of.

Richard

JD's rhyme is a loosely accurate parody of a thread Dylan started six or something months ago which was ultimately the cause of him taking a break.

He went for the hard sell. People weren't giving him enough money. He wanted a better boat. He wanted to keep it in an expensive Clyde marina. Most people who watched his videos weren't clicking on the Paypal button and were just a bunch of freeloaders. Although I kept out of the thread I was offended by the last bit in particular as I'd been sending him cheques from time to time and I resented been attacked for not clicking on his Paypal button - it was strongly enough worded for that reaction.

As I said earlier in the thread I decided the best course of action was not to watch any more of his videos.

However, I hope he isn't driven from the forum again.

 

[Mee]

looks like an entertaiing website. It looks ike some of the angry people are just jealous

 

[Kelpie]

The way I see it, DW is trying to recoup enough from his videos to sustain his ability to produce them. He isn't trying to make a living, or a profit, from it. Nor is it exactly a case of 'funding his holidays' as some have asserted, because if he just wanted to go sailing he could do it a damn sight easier without all that getting up to catch the dawn light, hanging around somewhere for days to get the right shot, not to mention the months and months of editing time sat at a computer.

The amount of money he needs to continue producing them is fairly modest. If everybody who watches them chipped in 50p that would keep him going for a year.

So in that light I think some of the more critical comments are very unfair and unnecessary. If you don't like the videos, or the attempt to continue producing them, don't watch them, don't visit the website, don't read the threads.

 

[shaunksb]

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Inappropriate language - please find a more acceptable way of expressing yourself

Is this better?

Please don't fall into the trap of mistaking mild criticism of actions with personal attacks.

(Snip)

My job involves a lot of specialised writing,

None of us mind a bit of "mild" criticism.

Constructive criticism is often very helpful

I'm sure he'll be back. Cats always come back when they're hungry.
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sailing on a budget is all very well but sailing on someone else's budget is much more comfortable!

I'm not quite sure that's the same thing as a money making venture exploiting the goodwill and interests of sailors.

But judging by the typical responses to your writing on this thread you need to brush up on your social awareness, concentrate more on getting the tone of your posts better and loose the snide remarks otherwise you are in danger of coming across as a nasty little so and so.


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[lpdsn]

The way I see it, DW is trying to recoup enough from his videos to sustain his ability to produce them. He isn't trying to make a living, or a profit, from it.

Actually, I'm not at all sure about that at all. It didn't start off that he was trying to make money from it but he fell foul of big bad Google automatic algorithms and lost, I believe, a lot of his income, so after that I think he was. Like many others on here I started contributing at that stage and for a while after, until, in my case, stopping when hit with the hard sell.

 

[Kelpie]

KTL is a labour of love, not some commercial enterprise. There are much easier ways to make money than by spending an inordinate length of time producing videos that appeal to about 10,000 people globally.

 

[steveeasy]

Regardless of what anyone thinks, Dylans strategy was a PR disaster. Some might argue it was worse than that. But why go there. its done and dusted. If you've got something to sell , do that and sell it. or even worse get a job.

Steveeasy

 

[OceanSprint]

You should look at ktl season 8 part 2. It has been taken off you tube. It is seriously weird, and seems to reveal a scots hater. When he compares children sword dancing to taliban i signed off.
(Dylan. I guess kids burning guy fawkes is ok?)

 

[Bav34]

I lost interest in "Dylan the Business" vs. "Dylan the Man" when he lashed out at so-called freeloaders.

Constantly.

They were people who watched his YouTube channel without paying to support his hobby.

Ironically I had made small contributions when he was on the south coast, but either way his aggressive attitude turned me off.

 

[Blue Sunray]

You should look at ktl season 8 part 2. It has been taken off you tube. It is seriously weird, and seems to reveal a scots hater. When he compares children sword dancing to taliban i signed off.
(Dylan. I guess kids burning guy fawkes is ok?)

It still seems to be there?

I have to say what I'd seen of him before I found rather tedious and predicable but I actually quite enjoyed that. Having seen both the Taliban and Christian extremists in action I happen think that he makes a fair point wrt dancing with weapons. A decent reminder that some of our own history 3-400 years back is pretty similar to what goes on in NI/Balkans/ME/AFG today (qv your point about Guidio Fawkes).

 

[OceanSprint]

Fair point. Except he sells himself as the voice of middle aged old English miserble gits, and has a go at scots history. I detect a lot of "them and us" in the video, them being funny old scots people and us being clever English visitors. Not "lets look at our collective history"

 

[Biggles Wader]

Fair point. Except he sells himself as the voice of middle aged old English miserble gits, and has a go at scots history. I detect a lot of "them and us" in the video, them being funny old scots people and us being clever English visitors. Not "lets look at our collective history"

Ive watched a couple of bits as posted on here and thought it ok but not really something I would "follow" avidly.So I watched the video you mentioned and thought much the same.I think you are over reacting a bit?

 

[Blue Sunray]

Fair point. Except he sells himself as the voice of middle aged old English miserble gits, and has a go at scots history. I detect a lot of "them and us" in the video, them being funny old scots people and us being clever English visitors. Not "lets look at our collective history"

That would be our collective history of pretty much continuous warfare of varying scales up to the mid 1700s?

BTW are you saying that he is incorrect about the support for 'anyone but England' in ball kicking/carrying completions? Because that certainly rings true in my experience.

 

[Malish]

Nice to hear from Dylan I hope things are going well for him.

+1
Good to see him out on the Deben too

 

[Ballyhoo]

You gotta laugh at the ones where he has a go at Trump though!

 

[Poecheng]

I like Dylan.

He has done something - something of quality that will stand the test of time. Something that everyone across the world can watch and - if it is their sort of thing - can either be inspired by or entertained by, or both.

However clever we are in our individual fields, most people's contribution to society is rather temporary. If we consider our individual contribution to the sport/pastime etc of sailing/boating (call it what you will) then for most of us - other than participation - it will be zero (me certainly). Dylan can hold his head up higher than most in that regard.

I don't want this post to be a further springboard for his critics to fire off again - the OP was a piece of good news about/for Dylan so not clear at all why it had to be dragged down by criticisms (some quite ill-informed) that could very well have been left unsaid - but it is very nice to see the level of support he has.

The forum is a better place for Dylan's contributions.

 

[fergie_mac66]

I like Dylan.

He has done something - something of quality that will stand the test of time. Something that everyone across the world can watch and - if it is their sort of thing - can either be inspired by or entertained by, or both.

However clever we are in our individual fields, most people's contribution to society is rather temporary. If we consider our individual contribution to the sport/pastime etc of sailing/boating (call it what you will) then for most of us - other than participation - it will be zero (me certainly). Dylan can hold his head up higher than most in that regard.

I don't want this post to be a further springboard for his critics to fire off again - the OP was a piece of good news about/for Dylan so not clear at all why it had to be dragged down by criticisms (some quite ill-informed) that could very well have been left unsaid - but it is very nice to see the level of support he has.

The forum is a better place for Dylan's contributions.

Couldn't be said better

 

[steveeasy]

I like Dylan.

He has done something - something of quality that will stand the test of time. Something that everyone across the world can watch and - if it is their sort of thing - can either be inspired by or entertained by, or both.

However clever we are in our individual fields, most people's contribution to society is rather temporary. If we consider our individual contribution to the sport/pastime etc of sailing/boating (call it what you will) then for most of us - other than participation - it will be zero (me certainly). Dylan can hold his head up higher than most in that regard.

I don't want this post to be a further springboard for his critics to fire off again - the OP was a piece of good news about/for Dylan so not clear at all why it had to be dragged down by criticisms (some quite ill-informed) that could very well have been left unsaid - but it is very nice to see the level of support he has.

The forum is a better place for Dylan's contributions.

with respect, some of the opinions are not ill informed, but differ from other opinion. I like Dylan, I like his character, I miss his humour, The only thing I did not like was his strategy.

Edited in the interests of all.

 

[Champagne Murphy]

I like Dylan.

He has done something - something of quality that will stand the test of time. Something that everyone across the world can watch and - if it is their sort of thing - can either be inspired by or entertained by, or both.

However clever we are in our individual fields, most people's contribution to society is rather temporary. If we consider our individual contribution to the sport/pastime etc of sailing/boating (call it what you will) then for most of us - other than participation - it will be zero (me certainly). Dylan can hold his head up higher than most in that regard.

I don't want this post to be a further springboard for his critics to fire off again - the OP was a piece of good news about/for Dylan so not clear at all why it had to be dragged down by criticisms (some quite ill-informed) that could very well have been left unsaid - but it is very nice to see the level of support he has.

The forum is a better place for Dylan's contributions.

+1

 

[sailaboutvic]

I not at all sure what the problem is here , I have never seen any of Dylan films but have read some of his posting , which can be funny at times .
The guy want to make videos and Seen to enjoys it , other also enjoys his videos and are willing to contribute towards them and if he making a few bob which going towards some thing he likes doing. good for him .
No one is forcing anyone to help pay towards his lifestyles,
It seen to me some are just jealous of other because they are doing something they can't do and are getting notice for it .
There been a lot of criticism about copy write of some photo in his films , I wonder how many of us haven't at some time download music or films and broken copy write laws .
We all humans and we all make mistakes.

If we read these posting regular as I do , you will soon notice there are some on here that don't have any thing much useful to say and just to get their names up there will go around and criticise other on what said or the way it is written
Over the years I met quite a few of the people here as we sail around and all have been very nice people ,
but when the conversation get around to YBW and the forums the same names come up time and time again as guys who just looking to pick holes in other people posting .
Get a life guys , most of us aren't interested in what you have to say unless it's some thing that useful to a posting , keep your comment for the lounge .