BelleSerene
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Odd, the ‘stay off the main road’ diagram on p48 in July’s seamanship’ article shows the ships steaming on the wrong side! Or am I confused?
Drive on the right crossing Biscay!
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knuterikt
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In relation to what?
UK cars?
BelleSerene
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VicS
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How about a link so that we can see the diagram in its full context
Roberto
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BelleSerene
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I am sorry, I expect it would be wrong to paste a page of the magazine on the forum. The screen capture above is of the entire diagram though, from my Readly iPhone copy. It shows the ships passing green-to-green! The point the article is making is to step aside from the shipping 'road' - it's suggesting 15nm or so - so as not to have unnecessary close encounters.
VicS
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I think you can lay the blame for the apparent contravention of the "colregs" firmly on the journalist responsible for the diagram
In reality the ships are passing ( mostly) red to red but it is not a TSS and they are not obeying the rules of a TSS
Screen grab from Marine traffic this evening:
doug748
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No, I don't think you are confused. The journos have picked an old illustration and not noticed the that the orientation is not what you would expect, right now, in Biscay.
It is only this century that the TSS around Ushant was changed from driving on the left to, the more usual, port to port.
webcraft
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Going from the Scillies to La Coruna the rhumb line crosses the shipping lanes at a very shallow angle, such that you are in close proximity to ships for more than 24 hours. I did not find it a problem on either occasion I did it, and am planning a third crossing following the same route. Should I read more yachting magazines?
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GHA
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The traffic density option in marinetraffic can be useful, some fiddling in GE2KAP can convert it into a chart visible in opencpn.
Dukester52
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It's all in the context of the article (and indeed the book) - the author, a singlehander, prefers to keep out of the way of shipping, where possible, on passage.
webcraft
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If singlehanding and intending to get some rest at some point that makes perfect sense. However, the traffic density diagram - and my own experience - shows that you can meet traffic anywhere. The Ushant-Finisterre 'motorway' is pretty clearly defined, and you know what direction everyone is going in.
In poor vis getting the hell off the motorway makes perfect sense though.
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LadyInBed
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Vic's screen grab is pretty much what I have seen. Ships were about 50nM out when I go Camaret - La Coruna.
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Yes. The last thing you want is to be within VHF range of a ship if things go pearshaped�� Are more yachts run down by ships or assisted by ships? I know what my guess would be.