Do i need an icc for the netherlands?

[Phoenix of Hamble]

This comes up every now and then.....

The RYA advice is unequivocal......

You do not need an ICC, CEVNI endorsed or otherwise if your craft is within the boundaries set out above by Leer.....

 

[Andrew_Fanner]

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You must have an ICC which is endorsed for the CEVNI regulations. Each person who takes the helm, once you are past the first lock or bridge, must have a CEVNI endorsed ICC.
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And, to the annoyance of junior crewmembers, the rules specifically forbid <16yrs at the helm. Ditto out in the tender unless powered by oars.

 

[Frankklose]

I dont you which kind of arguments you all have.
The rules are very clear.
If the Vessel exceeds a length of 15 meter or the craft can go faster then 20 km per hour (11 knots) you need to have a license.
For a 3 m rubber dingy with a a 20 Hp engine you need to have a license (it can go faster then 20 km/h), for a sailing vessel of a 40 foot mono hull you dont need a license (will not exceed 20km/h)

 

[kengill]

A UFO 34 will surf at 12 knots plus. Ask any UFO racing sailor.

Its not whether you can make it go that fast but whether or not the capability is there.

 

[sailorman]

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[Phoenix of Hamble]

Oh come on... get serious.....

I'm sure that if we took a canal boat, put 50 fit blokes on board, and gave each of them a large oar, we'd probably be able to get 12kts out of it.... don't you think you are getting overly pedantic? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

PS..... not too much chance to get big surfs on a canal inland.....

 

[Stork_III]

Don't mind him, he's a P******

 

[EU_Cruiser]

Just to update this:
To the best of my research, as said above, you do not need any qualification to sail the coastal or inland waterways of the Netherlands if vessel is <15m LOA and cannot exceed 20kph in speed. Nor do you need to register the vessel if it is <20m and cannot do more than 20kph (mph?).

References:

http://upcommons.upc.edu/e-prints/bitstream/2117/16649/1/STUDY%20ON%20THE%20LICENSE%20REQUIREMENTS%20FOR%20PLEASURE%20BOATS%20IN%20THE%20EUROPEAN%20UNION.pdf Scroll down to Netherlands on page 1112.

http://http://www.rdw.nl/Particulier/Paginas/Een-motorboot-kopen-.aspx?path=Portal/Particulier/Motorboot/Kopen

http://www.rdw.nl/Particulier/Paginas/Motorboot.aspx

 

[macd]

I've rarely encountered such a mish-mash of half-baked information in any thread on such a transparently factual subject, culminating in the astounding claim that "you certainly do [need an ICC] in the rest of europe now."
As a few more rigorous souls have pointed out, you don't a need an ICC or any other sailing qualification for Dutch coastal waters, which was the OP's query.
As to the rest of Europe: http://www.rya.org.uk/infoadvice/boatingabroad/icc/Pages/eocrequired.aspx

 

[TimBennet]

I've rarely encountered such a mish-mash of half-baked information in any thread on such a transparently factual subject . . .

Really? I thought that was the characteristic of most threads on these forums.

 

[alant]

You must have an ICC which is endorsed for the CEVNI regulations. Each person who takes the helm, once you are past the first lock or bridge, must have a CEVNI endorsed ICC.

Check with the RYA or ring up the Dutch. You must also have proof of the yacht's VAT status, the certificate of registration, Three copies of the Shengen crew list on the officialy approved layout , insurance certificate and , the original receipts for the red diesel in your tank.

Do not go without every last piece of paper stated above, or otherwise have a very deep wallet for the large number of fines you will have to pay. We were boarded last year and they even checked each individual passport to check they had the right number of pages etc.

There used to be a rule, that you needed a copy of the Inland Waterways Rules onboard - in Dutch.
Does that still apply?

 

[Leighb]

Only if you are intending to use the canals or inland waterways, which it seems the OP is not.

 

[jerrytug]

There used to be a rule, that you needed a copy of the Inland Waterways Rules onboard - in Dutch.
Does that still apply?

To be anally pedantic, a copy of the ANWB regs in Dutch must be carried, but a download is now acceptable.

 

[chinita]

If the OP ever got one, it will have expired by now.

 

[Stork_III]

There used to be a rule, that you needed a copy of the Inland Waterways Rules onboard - in Dutch.
Does that still apply?

Why do you choose to quote the posting which contains the most incorrect information on this topic?

 

[sailorman]

There used to be a rule, that you needed a copy of the Inland Waterways Rules onboard - in Dutch.
Does that still apply?

i have the Vol 1 on the lappi its a free download

 

[alant]

Why do you choose to quote the posting which contains the most incorrect information on this topic?

Read #33, which confirms its correct!

 

[Stork_III]

Read #33, which confirms its correct!

I don't disagree with the need for acopy of the Dutch water regs, but the post you actually quoted is total rubbish.

 

[alant]

I don't disagree with the need for acopy of the Dutch water regs, but the post you actually quoted is total rubbish.

really?

My post
"There used to be a rule, that you needed a copy of the Inland Waterways Rules onboard - in Dutch.
Does that still apply?"

Your post
"I don't disagree with the need for acopy of the Dutch water regs"

Perhaps you can explain your noxious rant!

 

[jerrytug]

This is the one, sorry I can't do a link: