Dangerous diesel heaters impounded

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[rotrax]

Whatever the rights and wrongs in this debate, the price of the Weberspatchers on the UK market, for whatever reason, most certainly prevented a large section of the boating world from retro installing warm air heating.
The sheer number of ex Post office D1 heaters that ended up in boats proved the demand was there.
Exactly the same risk of poor installation was present then as now but with the additional risk of an old worn out heater being poorly installed.
The "rot" really started when a company in Turkey started flogging genuine Eber stuff at a fraction of the UK selling price, even after the P&P was added
and usually got it only a few days later as well.
My first freeze n lump it boat was treated to and heated by a weedy ex PO D1 and some Turkish delight accessories from Ebay.
The next boat had an old Ardic which worked fine ......unless it was cold, this was promptly replaced with a Planar.
Present boat has a big Eber which is working fine, if and when it konks out, Eber will be nowhere to the seen on the replacement list.
Any warm air heater will most certainly extend the use of any boat throughout year.
Neglect due non use is big contributor to marine stuff expiring to soon , more use might mean less failures This is a good thing.

First Mate and I are off to the boat this afternoon. The big Webasto will be flat out once aboard and a 2KW electric heater will get the boat toasty quickly. Once comfortable the Webasto goes off. 750W on the electric heater's lower setting keeps it comfortable. Tomorrow I will service the engine and genset. Monday remove the in mast furling line ready for replacement. If the Webasto dies, a cheaper, just as effective heater will be used as a replacement.

 

[stelican]

You can install a full gas system except to the mains gas which then has to be done by gas safe and registered.

Does that include all the water and gas pipework except to the gas mains. What about the electical side .
Sorry about the tread drift but very interested to learn.

 

[Seastoke]

Does that include all the water and gas pipework except to the gas mains. What about the electical side .
Sorry about the tread drift but very interested to learn.

Some boilers come with a plug on then have a built wireless stat.

 

[Seastoke]

Does that include all the water and gas pipework except to the gas mains. What about the electical side .
Sorry about the tread drift but very interested to learn.

There is no gas pipe work only from the boiler to the mains .

 

[Freebee]

Does that include all the water and gas pipework except to the gas mains. What about the electical side .
Sorry about the tread drift but very interested to learn.

you can find all the answers here for both gas and electrical DIY Do's and Don'ts - Gas, Plumbing and Electrical | Moving & Improving

 

[stelican]

you can find all the answers here for both gas and electrical DIY Do's and Don'ts - Gas, Plumbing and Electrical | Moving & Improving

Thankyou.

 

[stelican]

Some boilers come with a plug on then have a built wireless stat.

Thanks for that just one more thing what about wood burners!

 

[waynes world]

Question about thee kits as some folk think that its the units. I am dam sure its the person fitting it. I have seen some totally stupid questions on fitting the chinese ones from folk that in need to ask the question should not be fitting one at all.

If a chap bought a Marine Erber kit and fitted it himself to instructions. And same chap also bought a cheapo chinese one and got all mare parts and fitted it.

Which setup would be safest ? both same if done correctly IMO.

 

[Seastoke]

Thanks for that just one more thing what about wood burners!

Not sure ,I think you can fit but need to be signed off , there are seven test authorities such as HEATAS but not 100%.

 

[waynes world]

Thanks for that just one more thing what about wood burners!

Inland waterways you need a BSC and as we know there are no such thing for sea going craft.
To fit a stove, either wood of multifuel you dont need and requirements to do so for inland raft. Less so i would think for sea going. Aswell with LPG, you can do all your own but advised to get it checked by a registered fitter if its a leisure craft.

 

[Plum]

Thanks for that just one more thing what about wood burners!

I fitted my own wood burner in our home. Needed planning permission, primary because we needed a chimney stack added up the outside side wall visible from the road but there was also a requirement for the hearth it stood on regarding size and material. After installing nobody inspected.

 

[stelican]

I fitted my own wood burner in our home. Needed planning permission, primary because we needed a chimney stack added up the outside side wall visible from the road but there was also a requirement for the hearth it stood on regarding size and material. After installing nobody inspected.

Thanks for info Plum.
I am considering similar but on rear wall with no near neighbours.
Have read installation requirements.

 

[PaulRainbow]

Question about thee kits as some folk think that its the units. I am dam sure its the person fitting it. I have seen some totally stupid questions on fitting the chinese ones from folk that in need to ask the question should not be fitting one at all.

If a chap bought a Marine Erber kit and fitted it himself to instructions. And same chap also bought a cheapo chinese one and got all mare parts and fitted it.

Which setup would be safest ? both same if done correctly IMO.

If he bought the Chinese one had somehow managed to interpret the instructions chances are it would be a lethal installation. Reason being, he would be likely to fit it using the supplied components, same as he would with the Eber.

You wouldn't throw any parts away with an Eber/Webast/Planar, so why would you expect to do so for a Chinese one ?

 

[Chiara’s slave]

We expected to and didn’t mind. It was, after all, £79.

 

[PaulRainbow]

We expected to and didn’t mind. It was, after all, £79.

Yes, everyone who reads this forum (apart from the select one or two) is well aware of the need to replace at least some of the parts, but there must be loads of people who just buy one and expect to use the supplied parts.

 

[webcraft]

Yes, everyone who reads this forum (apart from the select one or two) is well aware of the need to replace at least some of the parts, but there must be loads of people who just buy one and expect to use the supplied parts.

There are also half a dozen FB groups dedicated to Chinaspachers and their installation, and most purchasers will have studied these at some length.

- W

 

[petem]

There are also half a dozen FB grouos dedicated to Chinaspachers and their installation, and most purchasers will have studied these at some length.

- W

Do you have any proof of that assertion?

 

[Keith-i]

I fitted my own wood burner in our home. Needed planning permission, primary because we needed a chimney stack added up the outside side wall visible from the road but there was also a requirement for the hearth it stood on regarding size and material. After installing nobody inspected.

You will actually have required Building Consent rather more than Planning. Planning may have been involved for the visual aspect of the chimney but Building would be interested in the safety aspects such as CO alarm, hearth size, combustion air supply etc

 

[Seastoke]

You will actually have required Building Consent rather more than Planning. Planning may have been involved for the visual aspect of the chimney but Building would be interested in the safety aspects such as CO alarm, hearth size, combustion air supply etc

But they cannot sign it off, just say there has been a fatality by CO emission or fire . Then the installer is up shit creek without Tohatsu.