Dangerous diesel heaters impounded

NormanS said:
What do you think was wrong with wrapping "asbestos" tape around the exhaust pipe? Realistically in this day and age it's highly unlikely that it would be actual asbestos, but what would be the problem with covering the exhaust pipe with suitable heat resistant insulation?.......
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The obvious problem is that the wrapping hides a leaking or insecure joint.
 
NormanS said:
What do you think was wrong with wrapping "asbestos" tape around the exhaust pipe? Realistically in this day and age it's highly unlikely that it would be actual asbestos, but what would be the problem with covering the exhaust pipe with suitable heat resistant insulation? Where in the boat was the heater installed? What were the fumes? Is it not more likely that the exhaust lagging was damp, and the fumes were harmless steam? Sorry for so many questions, but you seem to be blaming the installer, and it would be good to get to the bottom of this.
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Hi I I’d not think of it as wrong , but what ever the tape was ,it was not wet as steam does not make you choke , I use a steam room so no . It was mounted in the laz as was the air intake but it was the tape burning .
 
Seastoke said:
Hi I I’d not think of it as wrong , but what ever the tape was ,it was not wet as steam does not make you choke , I use a steam room so no . It was mounted in the laz as was the air intake but it was the tape burning .
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Maybe it wasn't such a great idea to have the air intake in the same place as the exhaust. 🙁
 
penberth3 said:
The obvious problem is that the wrapping hides a leaking or insecure joint.
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In that case, the problem isn't the wrapping. One has to decide, depending on the installation, whether it's better to insulate the very hot exhaust, or not. Personally I would make sure that the exhaust was secure and not leaking, and then to reduce or remove the danger of burning, cover the piping with suitable insulation.
 
Seastoke said:
Hi I I’d not think of it as wrong , but what ever the tape was ,it was not wet as steam does not make you choke , I use a steam room so no . It was mounted in the laz as was the air intake but it was the tape burning .
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If it was newly installed exhaust wrap then it is normal to smoke for the first few times.
It did on my cars manifolds and exhaust and the same stuff on my diesel heater.
All cleared up in the end.
 
Boat engine exhaust systems , car brakes, steering etc, chain saws, driving, sailing, chinese heaters. Its all about being competent to do the task.
Being compotent should mean you can see whats good and what is not.
Incompetence may lead to injury or worse.
I am amazed people are not going up in flames everywhere seeing some youtube instalations, maybe a testement to the overall reliability of chinese heaters.
 
NormanS said:
In that case, the problem isn't the wrapping. One has to decide, depending on the installation, whether it's better to insulate the very hot exhaust, or not. Personally I would make sure that the exhaust was secure and not leaking, and then to reduce or remove the danger of burning, cover the piping with suitable insulation.
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I took it off then was fine.
 
PaulRainbow said:
Hell no, if i return them i'll have to pay more money for ones that are fit for purpose. Besides, i've never fallen overboard yet, so it doesn't really matter if they work or not.
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You know what they say about sarcasm . . .

Chinese diesel heaters are fit for purpose if installed properly, and nothing you say will alter that fact.

In particular, if you already have a professionally fitted Eber or Webasto and it dies, a new chinaspacher is an ideal plug and play replacement, connected to the existing exhaust, air intake and ducting.

- W
 
webcraft said:
You know what they say about sarcasm . . .

Chinese diesel heaters are fit for purpose if installed properly, and nothing you say will alter that fact.
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Only if you bin the exhaust, silenter and fitting kit.
webcraft said:
In particular, if you already have a professionally fitted Eber or Webasto and it dies, a new chinaspacher is an ideal plug and play replacement, connected to the existing exhaust, air intake and ducting.

- W
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Agreed, because you bin the exhaust, silenter and fitting kit.

I didn't bin any parts of my new Planar, in fact i had a load of good bits left over.
 
PaulRainbow said:
Your engines won't get as hot as the heater exhaust. If you don't have any insulation on it, it get very, very hot, i'd put some of this on it: EXHAUST LAGGING SLEEVE 22m to 24mm
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Hi Paul as I said earlier, it was my previous boat and it was mounted well away from things. My boat now has factory fitted heater ,a Webber , by Sealine there is no insulation on the exhaust, but mounted where I would hate to replace it.
 
PaulRainbow said:
Only if you bin the exhaust, silenter and fitting kit.

Agreed, because you bin the exhaust, silenter and fitting kit.

I didn't bin any parts of my new Planar, in fact i had a load of good bits left over.
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I would probably get a Planar if I was doing it all over again . . . but now I am happy with my installation if the heater ever fails I can just buy another Chinaspacher and it will be plug and play.

- W
 
webcraft said:
Chinese diesel heaters are fit for purpose if installed properly, and nothing you say will alter that fact.
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All you (or anyone else) can say is that the Chinaspachers fitted to date appear so far to be fit for purpose.

However, as there is no UK or European certification we don't know how long these things will remain safe for nor can there be any guarantees about the future quality of these units or any that are made by new entrants to the market.
 
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