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Cruising boat for under 20k?
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Praxinoscope
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I would suggest a look at the Sadler 32, although perhaps geting on a bit they have a proven track record.
Seastoke
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This is not your first post.
seanthedeane
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Had a look and unfortunately non within my budget currently. They do look solid though
seanthedeane
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I'm genuinely new to this site. I only found it a few days ago whilst looking for reviews on boats.
Concerto
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There are detailed instructions on how to find the information. The web link is too long to be in the forum signature. There are detailed instructions on how to find the information.
Kelpie
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Boat choice doesn't matter half as much as you might think.
We left the UK in 2021 and are thoroughly enjoying crusing the Caribbean. Beam reaching from island to island in reliable winds with few squalls. It's just blissful.
We spent the first summer in the Balearics which was nice but not a patch on this. Much cheaper living though.
We see people out here in every conceivable type of boat. If you're singlehanded then you don't need anything big or fancy. Smaller is better in many ways, but it does become harder to fit on enough solar, a good dinghy, a wind vane, and whatever toys (bikes, SUPs, etc) you collect.
If you can keep the water out and the mast up, and steer in roughly the right direction, then everything else is optional.
We left the UK in 2021 and are thoroughly enjoying crusing the Caribbean. Beam reaching from island to island in reliable winds with few squalls. It's just blissful.
We spent the first summer in the Balearics which was nice but not a patch on this. Much cheaper living though.
We see people out here in every conceivable type of boat. If you're singlehanded then you don't need anything big or fancy. Smaller is better in many ways, but it does become harder to fit on enough solar, a good dinghy, a wind vane, and whatever toys (bikes, SUPs, etc) you collect.
If you can keep the water out and the mast up, and steer in roughly the right direction, then everything else is optional.
Emmark
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This time last year I was looking myself and kept getting told Westerly and Moody were the way to go but the ones I viewed I hated they seemed very dull and dated, most looked like neglected money pits especially the Moody’s, there are probably nice examples about but the ones for sale seemed to have had little money spent on them in years. I know both have a strong following on here but neither appealed to me.
Im inexperienced but I do think in the 20-25k range your looking at 80’s or earlier so you need to rate every boat you view on its individual condition, equipment,updates, sails, rigging, engine etc.
Buying a sailing boat is probably the best thing I have bought, I really enjoy it, it can test your relationship with girlfriends/wives etc though!
Im inexperienced but I do think in the 20-25k range your looking at 80’s or earlier so you need to rate every boat you view on its individual condition, equipment,updates, sails, rigging, engine etc.
Buying a sailing boat is probably the best thing I have bought, I really enjoy it, it can test your relationship with girlfriends/wives etc though!
Kelpie
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People suggest 1970s Westerlies and Moodys because if you're on a budget and want a lot of boat at a low price, that's really all that's out there.
We were last boat shopping in 2018/19 and the only boats that were within budget and big enough for us were older British designs. Nearly got to view a couple of 80s French boats but they were more expensive and sold very quickly, before we could arrange a viewing.
The good thing about these older British boats is that there are active owners' associations and decades of experience with all the problems they might have. They also seem to be pretty solid in most ways, and designed with decent stowage rather than aiming to satisfy the charter market.
But it doesn't really matter what you choose. Avoid anything too unusual or extreme and if the spec/condition match the price, you can't go far wrong.
We were last boat shopping in 2018/19 and the only boats that were within budget and big enough for us were older British designs. Nearly got to view a couple of 80s French boats but they were more expensive and sold very quickly, before we could arrange a viewing.
The good thing about these older British boats is that there are active owners' associations and decades of experience with all the problems they might have. They also seem to be pretty solid in most ways, and designed with decent stowage rather than aiming to satisfy the charter market.
But it doesn't really matter what you choose. Avoid anything too unusual or extreme and if the spec/condition match the price, you can't go far wrong.
RunAgroundHard
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1970 Raider 35 in commission, well looked after, £16k.
Boats & Parts For Sale Scotland | Facebook
Suits you sir.
I have no association with this boat, the seller and only know what the Facebook site says.
I dispute Kelpies Westerly and Moodies claim, there are lots of other respectable boat classes out there for sale. Trawl though any of the broker sites and you will see them. For example, Mark Cameron Yachts, in your price range have a Mascot 28, Van de Stadt Pioneer 10, a Moody and Westerly, Maxi 84, Contessa 26. I only picked Mark Cameron Yachts as I was looking at a boat they have.
This forum is a bit of an echo chamber at times.
Boats & Parts For Sale Scotland | Facebook
Suits you sir.
I have no association with this boat, the seller and only know what the Facebook site says.
I dispute Kelpies Westerly and Moodies claim, there are lots of other respectable boat classes out there for sale. Trawl though any of the broker sites and you will see them. For example, Mark Cameron Yachts, in your price range have a Mascot 28, Van de Stadt Pioneer 10, a Moody and Westerly, Maxi 84, Contessa 26. I only picked Mark Cameron Yachts as I was looking at a boat they have.
This forum is a bit of an echo chamber at times.
PetiteFleur
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I have a Moody 33 mk2 - excellent boat for what you want to do, strongly built and an excellent owners association, similar to the Westerly Fulmar but centre cockpit and separate rear cabin. You should be able to get one in your budget. Look at both the mk1 and mk2 - I think the mk2 has a better interior.
Tranona
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That is simply not true. While there are probably as many non Westerly/Moody boats for sale at any one time, most of the others will be in tiny numbers of individual designs or even builders. Have a look here apolloduck.co.uk/brands.phtml which is a reasonable snapshot of the older and cheaper boats on the UK market. 108 Westerlys, 42 Moodys, 56 Colvic, 19 Sadler, 1 Mascot, 5 Maxi and so on. Most brandsin this sector of the market do not make it into double figures. This is of course inevitable as it reflects the level of sales of boats when they were new.
Westerlys, Moodys, Sadlers etc are popular with budget cruisers because they are simple, robust and there is a comparatively good choice on the market at any one time. Of course the condition of many is such that they are not a good buy, but that applies to virtually all boats at this level.
Several posters have suggested not to get too hung up on particular boats and to look at anything that meets the criteria. However many are likely to end up with the old favourites simply because there are more available to buy. You can only buy what is available for sale.
RunAgroundHard
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I stand corrected then, based on the numbers in your example.
vyv_cox
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We were berthed at the end of a very long raft at Dunmore East some years ago when a tired looking Pioner 10 tied alongside us. The skipper asked where we had come from, to which I replied Anglesey. I asked him the same question, ro which he replied St Lucia.
Wansworth
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The dismasting of Rum pirates trimaran off St Kitts with the breaking of the chain plate must bring into question buying an old boat for offshore sailing.
KevinV
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And all the others that don't get dismasted count for nought?
It was rotten luck for him, not a known problem on his type of boat, and anyone now the wiser can easily pull and inspect theirs to prevent it happening to them.
Minerva
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Similar thing to us the other year with a sigma 33.
We had arrived in Vattersay from Oban, feeling quite intrepid. The sigma turned up having only just arrived from the Azores…
Kelpie
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Hard to beat the conversation between Shane Acton (Shrimpy, 19ft ply bilge keeler) and a British yachtsman he met in the Med, when he was nearly back home.
Yachtie- "Did you come from England in that thing?"
Shane- "yes"
Yachtie- "ah, through the canals?"
Shane- "oh no, I went the long way."
Yachtie- "You mean you took that little thing through Biscay and the Straits of Gibraltar??"
Shane- "no, I went through Panama and Suez".
geem
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Another friend sailed his singlehanded to Portugal and back a few times. I spent some time on them. They are a good set up for a couple
A friend took his Fulmar across the pond and back singlehanded. They are a very capable sea boat.
Another friend sailed his singlehanded to Portugal and back a few times. I spent some time on them. They are a good set up for a couple
