Cruise ship runs aground off italan coast

[twizzle]

These photos are very revealing. How can the rock be embedded above and to the rear of the stabiliser if the ship was on a straight line course? Surely the stabiliser would have hit the rock first? It looks as if the ship was going hard to starboard with the stern swinging to port when she struck i.e. the stern swung into the rock. That might explain why the rock has been pushed deep into the hull. This suggests the bridge was aware of an obstruction before impact and taking avoiding action....maybe.

View attachment 15621

View attachment 15622

 

[twizzle]

...and the waters become muddier

These pictures are revealing. The rock is clearly embedded to the rear of and above the line of the port stabiliser. This would indicate that the ship was going hard to starboard with the stern drifting to port at the point of impact. The rock embedded in the hull would suggest there was lateral momentum to port. If the course was a straight line then the stabiliser would have been ripped off first. The ship changing course sharply would imply the bridge was aware of the obstruction and trying to take avoiding action...maybe.

 

[oceanfroggie]

If even 25% of what is emerging about this awful tragedy is true, one could be forgiven for having little sympathy for her master. If a Hollywood movie had a script along the lines of this disaster it would be slammed by critics for being utterly implausible.

Behind the media frenzy one cannot but feel sorrow for the families who have lost their loved ones and had their worlds torn asunder.

 

[mjf]

Frankly there is a lot more here than meets the eye.

I simple cannot believe the way Carnival have stood full square behind their master.......


As said previously the loss of life and casualty level could have been much greater than reported - although grim enough already

 

[davedpc]

It has been reported that the ship has 'slipped' down. I think what has happened is that the ship is crushing down on its side.These ships are not designed to sit on their side.

 

[twizzle]

A clever piece of ship handling??

http://news.qps.nl.s3.amazonaws.com/Grounding+Costa+Concordia.pdf
http://news.qps.nl.s3.amazonaws.com/Grounding+Costa+Concordia.wmv

The links above seem to confirm MHO of the ship's behaviour when the impact happened. The interesting part of what happened next is how the ship behaved NE of the harbour - see the .wmv link. If there was a loss of control (and depending on the degree) then this may be viewed as a very skillfull piece of ship handling.

 

[andyc]

looks to me as though they lost control on impact and momentum took them forward for a bit, then wind or waves took over and pushed it to where it rested.It took a long time to reach where it did after impact and was drifting at 1 knot or less for some time until it came to rest.

 

[mjf]

Until the full bottom damage is known - who knows.

Port side damage and stbd list speaks volumes - maybe ballasted accross to stabilize and over cooked it - maybe watertight doors left open or indded not closed.

Cross flooding occurred and it should not

Free surface - like Herald of Free Enterprise comes to play

 

[VicS]

Until the full bottom damage is known - who knows.

Port side damage and stbd list speaks volumes - maybe ballasted accross to stabilize and over cooked it - maybe watertight doors left open or indded not closed.

Cross flooding occurred and it should not

Free surface - like Herald of Free Enterprise comes to play

The best reconstruction of what happened ( may have happened ??) from AIS data is this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=s5mbKt7rQkQ#!

The same video with an explanation and narration added is at http://gcaptain.com/gcaptains-john-konrad-narrates-the-final-maneuvers-of-the-costa-concordia-video/

 

[Erik C]

To lose loved ones is always a tragedy, but to lose them because of utterly avoidable human stupidity must be twice as hard to bear.