Crew call transat Nov Lanzarote - Trinidad

Sorry to sound rude, and I don't care about the rules so much as want the crewing section to be used.

Sorry to sound rude, and I don't care about the rules so much as want the crewing section to be used.

Hokay jerry. I gotta say that your posts on this matter haven't just "sounded" rude - they definitely ARE rude. I don't want you be labouring under the idea that other people are somehow misinterpreting you - calling people "smartarse" aa you did is prima facie rudeness, and not a vague facsimile thereof. I thought you owned the forum, others thought you must be well-known to me for that sort of e-kicking. But not to worry, apology accepted.

HOWEVER..., the very thing you want me and others to do (use the other forum) is now much LESS likely to happen, innit? That's cos you delivered the command in a harsh and destructive manner. You can perhaps do that in a (say) military or penal-institution environment where the threat of instant physical etc discipline is always at hand., although even then it won't be very effective in all instances.

But it's definitely not appropriate in most walks of life these days, even sailing a boat where yeah, it's not a democracy but there again, it's supposed to be fun, an unpaid pastime.

A much better way would have been to say summink like "hey tcm that looks like a fun gig - I wonder if you could also post it in the crewing section?" or suggest that perhaps i just leave a header and one-liner here and the main chat about the gig in the crewing section?? We/I could have got the mods to make the adjustments and then lo! lots of people would have nipped over there, just like you want. Instead, they're gonna be avoiding it even more now, cos it seems that the crewing section is principally populated by fascists. See? One quite important aspect of modern life is getting other people to do what you want AND ensure that they feel great about doing so, to the extent that they improve and over-perform often above and beyond what you could have dared to ask or reasonably expected. It's not a trick or being conniving or conspiratorial or a long-winded namby-pamby substitute for shouting or delivering harsh commands - it's a hugely important element of skippering a happy and hence more effective and safer boat, or running any sort of team or organisation, big or (especially) small.

Hope this helps :-)
 
TCM
To be honesty I think your wasting your time trying to get crew on here , time and time again I seen people put ad in and getting no where , crew seen to want you to pick them up at there door and drop them off some where very convenient to them , I think you first posting was very clear , and unless there got A the time to do the trip on and B the cost and C willing to fit in with you , there no point in them replying . The name calling bit I have to say is getting worst and worst on the forums and the ruleness of some at time having no input on a subjust only posting to make an agreement which there seen to get some enjoyment out of . You may be better of to find else where to find crew somewhere where people are appreciate of your offer to take them along , rather then thinking that they are doing you some kind of Favour .
Find a crew or crew seekers may be a better options , also I think the CA has a crew service ,
I wish you luck in finding a good crew who will make the trip enjoyable ,
 
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TCM
To be honesty I think your wasting your time trying to get crew on here , time and time again I seen people put ad in and getting no where , crew seen to want you to pick them up at there door and drop them off some where very convenient to them , I think you first posting was very clear , and unless there got A the time to do the trip on and B the cost and C willing to fit in with you , there no point in them replying . The name calling bit I have to say is getting worst and worst on the forums and the ruleness of some at time having no input on a subjust only posting to make an agreement which there seen to get some enjoyment out of . You may be better of to find else where to find crew somewhere where people are appreciate of your offer to take them along , rather then thinking that they are doing you some kind of Favour .
Find a crew or crew seekers may be a better options , also I think the CA has a crew service ,
I wish you luck in finding a good crew who will make the trip enjoyable ,

Thanks for this and all noted .... although I have faith! I have found fab crew here, and around a dozen (yeah!) different ybw forum contributors have done transats and other longish 1000+ miles trips with me in the past. Note of course that there is no "filter" on any crew site - there can be total nitwits on any site, and they might visit many sites themselves, both the "good" and "poor" sites. But i see your point.

Cheers anyway
 
It's definitely dreaming for this trip anyway - you can't cross the Atlantic to a deadline like that, not really. Or at least, not without it being a job, getting paid etc, which isn't the intention at all. So thanks for your interest, but it's just not really feasible

Oh well on to other dreams. Bon Voyage.
 
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