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Our man reckons they will probably be be damaged, and apparently the nearest place to fix them is Germany. :ambivalence:
Red Falcon's still in service, so any damage must be minor.
Our man reckons they will probably be be damaged, and apparently the nearest place to fix them is Germany. :ambivalence:
At the Marchoness trial the prosecution rested on not posting sufficient lookouts and avery possible means of navigation. Not using the electronic nav in fog is inexcusable.. Even my Raymarine C120 would give sufficient data with radar overlay to navigate in fog.
Red Falcon's still in service, so any damage must be minor.
Did not know you could not buy striped paint. Tartan paint is also very difficult to find.
Looking out the window in restricted visibility is still the primary means of keeping a good lookout. The focusing to much on the electronics and forgetting about the windows is often found to be part of the problem.
Properly used RADAR is very accurate.
Improper use can lead you up the garden path with false sense of security.
Yes sailed to Soton the same day under own power , inspected overnight and returned to normal service the following morning.
Surely the right way to do things is to have a number of navigational devices and if you smell a rat for just a second on one of them, stop and check. It's incredibly easy to get the pieces of the puzzle to fit...including the rat...and put you in totally the wrong place.
Obviously it's all speculation at this point, however if the Captain pulled his iPhone out of his pocket and thought "erm...that's funny", and the mate checked his garmin handheld and thought "hmmmm...radar operator can you double check that please whilst I plot this lat/long on a paper chart" then Greylag might still be in one piece.
I'd love to know what their SOPs are, but even using yottie plotters and iPhones/iPads, I've never spotted any kind of GPS anomoly*. And it's accurate enough to usually show me exactly which finger berth I am on in a marina. I have no idea how they could have been so woefully off course.
*apart from the first turn to starboard turning inland in the Beaulieu river. Every device I've ever used there has me running the risk of hitting a cow...it's as if the land has moved but the baseline chart has not been updated.
I'm not suggesting for a minute that it happened in this case, but there have been reports of GPS data being spoofed by both the Russians and Chinese.
Agree that's not what happened in this case because the AIS track looks about right.
Went aground about an hour and a half before HW. Wonder why it didn't float off. Did it go hard aground under power or has it lost power altogether?
Agree that's not what happened in this case because the AIS track looks about right.
Curious thing about the AIS track ( Ive only just noticed this ) is that half way between where the vessel left the main channel and where in finally went aground is that it shows the speed as 6.3 knots at 278 ° ie westwards.
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The AIS track is a GPS track. Just maybe not the same GPS receiver as drives the plotter on the bridge....
I would be better towed off rather than risk damage its drive system
I thought it has VSP propulsion, it surely wouldnt also have thrusters as wellI think it was thrusting off as well as being towed - from the on-board camera I could see clouds of mud in the water, boiling out from under the stern (assuming we designate the end with the tug attached as the bow )
There's a picture of it sat in drydock during an earlier refit, without much blocking underneath, so I think the thrusters are mounted in shallower end parts of the hull and don't protrude much if at all below the deepest part amidships.
Pete
I thought it has VSP propulsion, it surely wouldnt also have thrusters as well
Did not know you could not buy striped paint.