Cowes Chain Ferry Madness

[RIBW]

Dear All,
My #36 is not the basis for any conclusions. Vic located the specifications and I commented on them. There is nothing to say that these, in their entirety, formed part of the final contract.
In our quotations we would very often affirm 'Non-compliant' against certain specification clauses (for a wide variety of reasons). That non-compliant paragraph would not form part of our contract.

Using my imagination in this instance, as a bidding builder I might have replied to Para G.1.3.2.:
"Non-compliant; but the requirement is understood and we would offer full and complete design information to a competent organisation of the customer's choice for the purposes of confirming compliance".

What matters is the contract document.

Cheers
Bob

 

[nicho]

The dartmouth lower ferry just has a boat with its bow secured amidships of the ferry and moves it back and forth quite succesfully even in rough weather.

Must have been a bit rough outside the harbour. Used that ferry many times - fascinating bit of kit.

 

[Sniper]

Surely there must have been some way to reject it as not fit for purpose?

When I was a paramedic one service had this idea of having A and E staff enter into a computer how many patients they had and then the dispatchers would specify where to take the patient i.e. The quietest or where they're most likely to be seen the quickest. The problem was the staff had enough to do without this and the system often wasn't updated. But crews were instructed to take patients to a specific hospital often passing another on the way, which was actually quieter.

W.

I remember that - it had some sort of acronym which escapes me now (CAMS ?). It was also not proof against a crew nearing the end of their shift turning up at the ‘wrong’ hospital to avoid being late off. Offload patient, then just shrug shoulders when asked why you hadn’t followed orders. Don’t ever remember being told to reload patient and transport to the ‘correct’ hospital, mainly because the patient was invariably taken to the nearest hospital which would have been their preferred choice.

 

[nicho]

Having read the documents it seems to me that the whole process started from the wrong place. Nobody seems to have thought about whether the size/design of the new vessel would work on the River Medina. There should have been tank testing of the design simulating conditions on the river. Maybe those tests would have shown that the design was not suitable.

Does thePoole chain ferry at Sandbanks have any similar problems in the fierce tides in the harbour entrance.

 

[Refueler]

{I don’t know what iwo means}

Normally means : In Way Off .....

To be in the location or affects the item.

Its a term that is common in my cargo business. For the Ferry - it would mean the Wind directly affecting the ferry in the river.

 

[PilotWolf]

I remember that - it had some sort of acronym which escapes me now (CAMS ?). It was also not proof against a crew nearing the end of their shift turning up at the ‘wrong’ hospital to avoid being late off. Offload patient, then just shrug shoulders when asked why you hadn’t followed orders. Don’t ever remember being told to reload patient and transport to the ‘correct’ hospital, mainly because the patient was invariably taken to the nearest hospital which would have been their preferred choice.

I don't remember it's name but it didn't work very well!

I was a response car driver/ assumed supervisor ( no extra £).went to one job, guy was pretty ill, recommended hospital was about 20 miles further away than the nearest one. The crew wanted to go to the nearest and I agreed that was appropriate, a few days laters got called into the manager's office - think they were DO in those days, he was trying to stick up the crew for ignoring the dispatch recommended hospital. There wasn't much said by me but what I did was pretty blunt and we never heard anymore about it . Likewise I remember senior nursing staff wanting to know why we had dragged the patient half way across the county .

W.

 

[mainsail1]

Does thePoole chain ferry at Sandbanks have any similar problems in the fierce tides in the harbour entrance.

The Sandbanks ferry is covering a much larger distance which I would think allows room for all kinds of adjustments.

 

[Babylon]

[...]

Faculty from the CofE, planning permission, scheduled ancient monument consent, bat licence, archeological impact assessment, newt assessment (there's Great Crested Newts in the manorial fish ponds), arboreal assessment (to confirm the proposed slit trench wouldn't affect the roots of the Yew in the churchyard which is subject to a Tree Preservation Order) ... and that's just the stuff i can recall from tedious conversations with the church wardens!

Bleeding 'eck! Where's Henry VIII when you need him!?

(Referring to the monasteries, not the Mary Rose of course!)