sealegsjim
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I have been quoted around £650 for a lift out, power wash and antifoul on a 27 footer. This seems like a lot of money for a few hours work. What do forumites think. I am based in Windermere.
Cost of lift out wash down and antifoul
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Talbot
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[sarcasm mode]Assuming that they are using rolled gold sheets for the antifoul, then it seems reasonable[/sarcasm mode]
I previously had a UFO27 in Malahide, Dublin. Lifting each way was charged AFAIK 130Euro. I did my own anti-fouling and would reckon that the time taken to apply it plus sanding off beforehand, masking up, cleaning and antifouling the prop and changing the shaft anode would have been about eight hours work. In the last couple of years, due to the economic downturn, the boatyard has reduced its labour charge from 70Euro toE55. Even at this rate they would charge E440. Then add the cost of the materials; say E60. This adds up to E760, equal at todays rate to about £646, so I'd say that price sounds about right for a professionally done job.
tillergirl
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You are a captive punter I suspect. No tide on Windermere so you can't scrub and AF between tides and I suspect there are few competing yards? Does that include the cost of the paint? By the way, beware, most modern AFs require up to 12 hours air drying before immersion some longer at the temperatures we have been having; Flag AF is the shortest I've found with 6 hours, so presumably that means that part of that cost includes storage ashore for a day?
Leighb
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That does seem a lot. I paid £160 to have the hull rubbed down and boot top and 2 coats antifouling applied to a 30' boat, I had supplied the paint.
The boat was already out of the water, but £450+ for a lift and relaunch is extortionate.
The boat was already out of the water, but £450+ for a lift and relaunch is extortionate.
chinita
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Whatever you end up paying, bite the bullet, pay it then buy one of these:
http://www.hullmate.com/
No connection, bought one last weekend and it is brilliant.
http://www.hullmate.com/
No connection, bought one last weekend and it is brilliant.
davidej
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Had a look at that -seems to be very effective but, being a cheapskate like the OP, it is a lot of money for a broom with a long handle
prv
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It's not quite just a broom with a long handle. It also has buoyancy to press it upwards against the hull.
...so lash an empty 2-litre coke bottle to the head of your broom and then you have a matching device
Pete
FullCircle
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Moodysabre bought one of these and demonstrated its effectiveness. Whilst I would not buy one myself, I would slip him a case of Stella to borrow it occasionally. They do work, ermm, mostly.
Bosun Higgs
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Normally I pay £50 out, £50 in and I apoply the antifoul ( another £50 worth) myself. And thats on a 35 footer.
SimonD
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For what it's worth, it wouldn't take long to recoup the cost of coppercoating at that rate....
Twister_Ken
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Coppercoat still needs an occasional powerwash or scrub to knock off the slime that slowly builds up, and you need to get at the shaft/prop which can't be coppercoated, and you need to change anodes, so you still have to have a lift or a diver. What you save is time ashore, time rubbing down old a/f, time repainting. And the recurring cost of tins of A/f gloop every year.
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Tranona
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At the top end. Ask for a breakdown of costs. Crane, clean, block off and relaunch is usually around £250. Materials around £70 if straight one coat and 4 or 5 hours labour. So easy to see top side of £500. The big penalty is having to pay boatyard labour rates for non skilled labour - but if they were not doing your job they would be doing something more highly skilled so the opportunity costs is high.
Dave99
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sounds like a fair price to me. most of the cost is probably weighted in the lift out i suspect.
Dave99
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That sounds like a very good rate - where is your boat based?
chinita
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Yes, you are right. A complete waste of time effort and money, absolute carp, it must have been a dream, a dream, a dream................
maby
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Certainly comparable with what we paid three years ago for doing a 27 foot bilge keeler. Make sure that they are including the anodes with that!
sealegsjim
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Thanks for all your input - it is much appreciated. Sounds like it is probably the going rate. I still think it is outrageous and it has led me to think: do you actually need to antifoul in a fresh water lake?
What is the downside if you don't? Bit of weed/slime on the hull to slow you down. The way I sail that would be unnoticable.
What is the downside if you don't? Bit of weed/slime on the hull to slow you down. The way I sail that would be unnoticable.
maby
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Easy to test - keep the money in your pocket - though you probably still need to change tha anodes.
Daydream believer
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It's not quite just a broom with a long handle. It also has buoyancy to press it upwards against the hull.
...so lash an empty 2-litre coke bottle to the head of your broom and then you have a matching device
Pete
Plus fit half of a broken sailboard boom to the handle & it will curve around the hull better
