The outlet pipe on my loo doesn't pass the, wipe it with a cloth and sniff it test. Its green coloured does this mean its the right type. I had a feeling sanitation grade was white.Any body know?
Sanitation hoses are either black or white...most black is more resistant to odor permeation than most white hose is. The stiffer the hose, the more resistant it is...conversely, the softer and more pliable it is, the more likely it is to permeate. Really soft hose, especially white, will permeate very quickly. If you were here in the US, I could recommend the best brands...unfortunately, I don't know what's available in the UK.
So pick a good quality hose that is, as towzer said, be sure the hose is rated for sanitation use, and also for below-waterline use. When replumbing, try to eliminate sags where waste can stand.
I'll be glad to assist with any plumbing issues when you're ready to start the job.
Not sure that the US advice from HeadMistress is appropriate here in the UK. Here, follow towzer240's advice and buy the white sanitation hose - it will last well and keep free of odours And it is really quite flexible and easy to install!
I replaced green hose that was already on my boat to white hose from mailspeed marine, the only problem appeared to be the fitting to the outlet seacock was bigger, really struggled to get the white hose over. smells much better now though. oh, fitted one of those in line blue thingys as well.
Correct, white sanitation hose is normally sold in the UK but the better choice is rubber with a metal barrier, I've seen some at my boat yard so it is available, but at what price?
Slagging off the Headmistress from the benefit of such a short time on the forum is not exactly a clever way to introduce your own opinion. Those of us who have had the benefit of her advice will know exactly who is more likely to know what they are talking about, and it aint you
I have the reinforced green hose on my heads, it certainly will not last as long as proper sanitation hose and will permeate more quickly, but it is a lot cheaper. If you dont want a smelly loo the most important thing is to make sure you have pumped out thoroughly . Once it has started smelling, replace the pipework cause there is nothing you can do that will have any long term effect.
BTW. the green hose has ben on my heads for 11 years now, and shows no sign of smelly! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
On a board full of pretty opinionated contributors, I thought I was pretty mild. All I did was recommend using standard, available in all UK chandlers, while sanitation hose! Is that wrong?
We have considered this toileting thing for a long time. We are sealing the seacocks off with blanks, putting a wooden seat, with a hole in, across the heads compartment and a bucket with a lid on under it. All waste matter to be disposed of immediately. Men, who generally think they are holding a rifle in their hand, when in fact it is usually a very short snub-nosed hand-gun, (ask any woman), will be required to pee over the side unless circumstances won't allow, in which case they must pick the bucket up and hold their todger in it for relief. The idea of all these poo pipes festering on our pride and joy is too much to bear. We think!
I replace my toilet piping last year which was smelling (complaint from SWMBO) I used the proper, grey (marked) sanitation piping. Well worth the slight extra. I now a happy SWMBO!!!
Maybe the UK has different colours for toilet piping but it seems strange if so - the market for this sort of pipe isn't vast compared with domestic pipe on a worldwide basis. I've just had a new holding tank fitted and they used white semi-rigid - I was told that this is the best available and was charged a lot of money. I trust the people who did the work and doubt that they would deliberately mislead or con me.
Could it be that in the UK we are very behind other countries in fitting holding tanks? I personally know of only one marina on the south coast with a pump-out though there must be more? Anyway, if you look at used boats in the 40' to 50' bracket the vast majority don't have holding tanks, quite a few have removed original tanks or the tanks are in a state of disrepair. That wouldn't be the case in the USA, I imagine, where not to have a holding tank would be considered anti-social as well as illegal?
I think there is a wide variety of industrial hoses which are suitable as industry handles stuff a lot more nasty than heads waste but including sewage. I have come across boats with problems with so called "white sanitation hose" and also no problems with "other" types of hose.
In our own boat's case I left it to the boatbuilder to choose (he was a well regarded one) - it turned out to be blue and has been in frequent use, including liveaboard, for over 8 years now with no problems.
I suspect the best source is a knowledgable specialist hose supplier who supplies to a variety of industries, rather than the local chandler, and it may turn out that it is not white.