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lustyd

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No the channel islands are part of the "Common travel area" and no passport is required. I am old enough to remember flying from Hern Airport to Jersey for a holiday before I possessed a passport.
Common travel area means you don’t need to check in. You might need to prove your identity to show that you don’t need to check in since literally everyone else does.
Also as I said it’s extremely easy to end up in French waters with the tides there. Any small problem could see you drift a few miles and then you’d potentially be an illegal immigrant in France with no proof of identity.
 

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Also as I said it’s extremely easy to end up in French waters with the tides there. Any small problem could see you drift a few miles and then you’d potentially be an illegal immigrant in France with no proof of identity.
Is that true though, if you just happen to be passing through their waters. Is it not covered by any international right of passage etc.
 

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I just use the paper forms and email them and call the yachtline when I arrive. I have a PDF on my lap top and I just fill it out it is so much simpler than trying to fight with useless technology.
At the club's meeting they said the C1331 would be phased out as most non-UK citizens will in future need a pre-authorisation that they buy and is valid for 3 years like the EU's ETIAS system and you would need to use the online form to check the person had it. They aren't planning on having separate systems for yachts with only UK citizens onboard.

They are running a trial for citizens of the gulf states at the moment.
 

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No the channel islands are part of the "Common travel area" and no passport is required. I am old enough to remember flying from Hern Airport to Jersey for a holiday before I possessed a passport.
Government ID acceptable to either an airline or ferry company is required - which is a passport, an armed forces ID, a police warrant card, an EU ID card or certain types of driving licence.
 

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Last year I emailed a 1331 on departure. On return I had heard about the online link and tried to use but it wouldn't accept it as I hadn't booked out online.
I phoned the Southampton(?) office, it was 3AM , and the duty guy sorted it for me. He was very helpful and I was extremely grateful.
 

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Is there a way of doing the using a proper pen and real paper?
No, even the form for email is deprecated.

As someone said on another thread, they expect the skipper to do the role of a border force officer, checking paperwork validity, that the passport isn't counterfeit and running the names through the database.
 

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In that case, you're a distressed mariner, not an illegal immigrant.
If that were the case then our newspapers would be saying something quite different. The difference between illegal immigrant and distressed mariner is the ability to prove your identity.
 

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Are you claiming that the truth somehow influences what newspapers write????
Just saying that if it were sufficient to say "don't worry I'm British" I think we might have a problem. Perhaps they only ask for ID from people with a "tan"?
 

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I was drafting a passage plan on the new system and it would not accept one entry however hard I tried or rearranged. As it was sunday so no chance of contacting home office form designer, I rang up the plymouth border agency who told me to just ring and give details if the problem persists beyond our travel deadline

They seem fairly unhappy with the form them selves which is many pages long, as compared to the preavis i have ready for france which is a concise single page.

I and wife have British Passport; The form should simply ask that, and if British passport skip all the rest except for boat name time and destination and arrivals.

Hilariously I am on their system from previous years, but having got new passport I had to delete myself and enter all details again, rather than being able to amend passport number
 

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Common travel area means you don’t need to check in. You might need to prove your identity to show that you don’t need to check in since literally everyone else does.
Also as I said it’s extremely easy to end up in French waters with the tides there. Any small problem could see you drift a few miles and then you’d potentially be an illegal immigrant in France with no proof of identity.
As I have mentioned before on forums, my mother and friend sailed out of Folkstone for a day trip but took refuge in Calais without passports etc when southerly storm blew up as they were closish to French coat. This was 1974 before wether forecasting quite as good or maybe friend did notpay enough attention to radio forecast.

The French authorities were fine and said get yourselves food and supplies such as you need, but depart when weather eases.

The British tried to deny my mother entry back into UK. She pointed out an arrest order would give her as resident of Hatfield, Herts, England, and she was well prepared to go home - escorted if necessary - to get the missing passport
 
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