iluvboats
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Nearing completion of home build Nelson 29', please could anyone help with details of how to obtain CE Certification?
I live North East UK.
I live North East UK.
CE Certification advice
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ChrisP
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To obtain a proper CE certificate you have to assemble a technical data file. This includes details of all the equipment including copies of all the CE certificates proving that the equipment meets the EU standards You have to have copies of all the risk analysis and actions you have taken to minimise the risks to a point where they meet the directive for the equipment. Having got all the relevant paperwork together you have 2 choices 1. submit your data to an approvals company who will go through your data and confirm that it meets the standards which then allows you to apply a CE mark to the boat (bloody expensive). 2 You can "Self Certify". This means that you are declairing the equipment complies because all the component parts comply in their own right. You effectivly issue your own certificate and mark the equipment.
Bigest problem will be the engines and the installation. To self certify you must confirm that the engines are compliant and the installation is designed to ensure that the engines are operated within their envelope of compliance. Unfortunatly most of the manufactures don't issue the data and so far I haven't found an engine manufacturer who's product actually carries a CE mark. And worse still when you ask them about it at the shows all you get is a blank look and a truck load of bulls**t. Your best option is to write out your own decloration confirming that all the materials and equipment are CE compliant (They carry the mark) and that all equipment has been installed in accordance with the manufacturers instructions. Therefore the boat is compliant with the CE directives. You are only likely to need to produce the document when you sell the boat. You should be aware that to comply with the letter of the law. CE compliance requires a list of all known defects affecting the compliance to be issued at the time you sell it.
It's not as hard as it sounds. All you have to do is assemble a file containing copies of all the certificates and instruction for all the equipment you use. Manufactures are required by law to issue you with a certificate of compliance on request if the equipment is sold within the EU. If they refuse, have a word with the trading standards people. As I mentioned Engine manufacturers will be the bigest problem because to my knowledge none of them sell with a CE mark showing compliance with the directive for marine engines (which just happens to be under review and has been for a couple of years). They claim that the can only be used as a component of an assemble. This is total bo****ks because they should issue instruction for the installation to ensure the emissions etc comply with the present directive.
Thats enough of the hard stuff. Best advice I've heard is to carry on building. Keep ALL the manufacturers documentation in a file and enjoy the results of your labour.
Good luck
ChrisP ;o)
What do you mean the sea gull in front's walking !!!
Bigest problem will be the engines and the installation. To self certify you must confirm that the engines are compliant and the installation is designed to ensure that the engines are operated within their envelope of compliance. Unfortunatly most of the manufactures don't issue the data and so far I haven't found an engine manufacturer who's product actually carries a CE mark. And worse still when you ask them about it at the shows all you get is a blank look and a truck load of bulls**t. Your best option is to write out your own decloration confirming that all the materials and equipment are CE compliant (They carry the mark) and that all equipment has been installed in accordance with the manufacturers instructions. Therefore the boat is compliant with the CE directives. You are only likely to need to produce the document when you sell the boat. You should be aware that to comply with the letter of the law. CE compliance requires a list of all known defects affecting the compliance to be issued at the time you sell it.
It's not as hard as it sounds. All you have to do is assemble a file containing copies of all the certificates and instruction for all the equipment you use. Manufactures are required by law to issue you with a certificate of compliance on request if the equipment is sold within the EU. If they refuse, have a word with the trading standards people. As I mentioned Engine manufacturers will be the bigest problem because to my knowledge none of them sell with a CE mark showing compliance with the directive for marine engines (which just happens to be under review and has been for a couple of years). They claim that the can only be used as a component of an assemble. This is total bo****ks because they should issue instruction for the installation to ensure the emissions etc comply with the present directive.
Thats enough of the hard stuff. Best advice I've heard is to carry on building. Keep ALL the manufacturers documentation in a file and enjoy the results of your labour.
Good luck
ChrisP ;o)
What do you mean the sea gull in front's walking !!!
jfm
Well-known member
Chrisp thanks for such an informative post.
When does someone need a CE mark? EG if I weld up and galvanise my own boat trailer using indespension suspension units etc etc, do I need a CE mark? Or can I just use it myself and ignore CE? Do I then need a CE when I sell it?
Where does one draw the line? What if I install a kitchen/bathroom at home using normal components? Does that need CE? What if i make a little bracket to mount my GPS on and screw it to the boat dashboard, does that need a CE?
Thanks for any info you can give
When does someone need a CE mark? EG if I weld up and galvanise my own boat trailer using indespension suspension units etc etc, do I need a CE mark? Or can I just use it myself and ignore CE? Do I then need a CE when I sell it?
Where does one draw the line? What if I install a kitchen/bathroom at home using normal components? Does that need CE? What if i make a little bracket to mount my GPS on and screw it to the boat dashboard, does that need a CE?
Thanks for any info you can give
ChrisP
Member
If you make something and sell it in the EU you need CE conformance with the relevant directive. Same if you import it and sell it. Re your trailer, there is an argument that it would need to comply with the relevant section of the motor vehicle directive and carry the mark. Being pedantic you would also need to keep a technical file showing the calculations used to design the repair and a risk analysis for the repaired trailer. If you sell to a non member country you could get away without conformance.
Long live the EU and all it's red tape.
ChrisP ;o)
What do you mean the sea gull in front's walking !!!
Long live the EU and all it's red tape.
ChrisP ;o)
What do you mean the sea gull in front's walking !!!
Lynette
Member
You don\'t need CE certification.
If you have built this boat yourself and don't plan selling her in the next five years.
Boats built for own use are exempt. See, for example, RYA advice at http://www.cruising.org.uk/rcd.htm.
This reference also gives details of the RYA's RCD Compliance Pack, if you have built this yacht to sell. However, if so you would have been advised to get this information before building.
If you have built this boat yourself and don't plan selling her in the next five years.
Boats built for own use are exempt. See, for example, RYA advice at http://www.cruising.org.uk/rcd.htm.
This reference also gives details of the RYA's RCD Compliance Pack, if you have built this yacht to sell. However, if so you would have been advised to get this information before building.
