CCTV on boat

[SimonA]

I want to put a camera on my boat to keep an eye on it while at home, I know CCTV is regulated by GDPR and the data protection act, but what does this mean to anyone wanting to use cameras to monitor a boat? If I put a camera on my mooring so I can check mooring ropes I'd be able to see neighbouring boats, is this allowed?

 

[markc]

I suspect that if your boat is kept in a marina then it's already covered by CCTV and as it's not 'public space' users of the area will be informed that CCTV is in operation

 

[Blue Sunray]

Start reading here:

Guidance on the use of domestic CCTV

 

[EugeneR]

I want to put a camera on my boat to keep an eye on it while at home, I know CCTV is regulated by GDPR and the data protection act, but what does this mean to anyone wanting to use cameras to monitor a boat? If I put a camera on my mooring so I can check mooring ropes I'd be able to see neighbouring boats, is this allowed?

Yes, but any recording beyond your private area e.g. boat must comply with the GDPR including giving people notice including your details, rights to see footage, be held securely and only for as long as necessary, etc. The link above is the right one, and links to some clear guidance for this scenario as well.

 

[lynallbel]

Maybe fit small discrete cameras?

 

[markc]

Yes, but any recording beyond your private area e.g. boat must comply with the GDPR including giving people notice including your details, rights to see footage, be held securely and only for as long as necessary, etc. The link above is the right one, and links to some clear guidance for this scenario as well.

A marina is not a public place plus the regs are to protect people's privacy, and your use would not affect that AFAIK

 

[Alicatt]

A marina is not a public place plus the regs are to protect people's privacy, and your use would not affect that AFAIK

The operator of the CCTV system has to publish his/her contact details, the marina with have those details posted somewhere before you enter the coverage of their CCTV system, if YOU are operating a separate system then YOU will have to post YOUR contact details somewhere before a person enters the coverage of Your CCTV system.
Admittedly it has been 15 years since I last looked at the rules and regs but I did used to do this for a living as a security surveyor for ADT/ Tyco Fire and Security.
Now I'm off to have a look at the previously posted GDPR guidance.

In Belgium here the rules are somewhat different and you are not allowed to record people in a public place without their express permission, digital recordings were not admissible in court, that one got me after an operation here, had to begin again with a 35mm camera and it is the negatives/positive film(slides) that is the evidence not the prints.

 

[markc]

I was just trying to apply the logic that a marina is a non-public space in that it is commercial property with an operator. In all likelihood the marina has CCTV that covers the whole marina and will be complying with the law in terms of signage etc., so anyone in the marina is 'informed' that they are on CCTV. I am aware that there are some regulations around GDPR, but a breach of these regulations and subsequent action taken by the ICO for recording someone walking past your boat on a pontoon with your camera (that is intended as a security device) is non-existent. The ICO are not going to take action. I understand that GDPR is based on protecting personal data, which in itself is admirable, but it has created a lot of needless anxiety. The only time the ICO is going to take someone to court for using CCTV is if they are using it with malicious intent. I think the OP is worrying needlessly. That's just my opinion, and I have CCTV on my boat and I'm not in the slightest bit worried, In fact it is beyond the bottom of my entire list of things I worry about with the boat.

 

[EugeneR]

The guidance does not refer to public spaces. Instead, it refers to places outside your private space. Examples include the neighbor's garden which, using markc's logic, is also not a public space but clearly covered by the guidance.

Comments above about marina CCTV operator details not matching yours are correct. Remember that the public have a right to ask for footage etc, so they need your details.

I agree, it is unlikely that someone will complain, and less likely that the ICO will care.

In our marina there is a boat with massive spot lights and about 4 CCTV cameras just looking at the pontoon next to and behind the boat ...completely dazzling when walking past it at night. Not appropriate IMHO.

 

[Bigplumbs]

Here we go again people worrying about the rules on something that is quite harmless and no one will police. I accept the OP asked the question and has got his answers

Just put up your camera point it in the right direction so you just see your boat and not much else and all will be qood. Your main issue is the WiFi/ internet connection and power supply you will need to make it work.

Look at the wansview series of cameras. They are very good, Very Cheap, the app works well......... I have about 10 or more of them and 20 or so others around my property..... It is sort of a hoby of mine

 

[Bigplumbs]

The operator of the CCTV system has to publish his/her contact details, the marina with have those details posted somewhere before you enter the coverage of their CCTV system, if YOU are operating a separate system then YOU will have to post YOUR contact details somewhere before a person enters the coverage of Your CCTV system.
Admittedly it has been 15 years since I last looked at the rules and regs but I did used to do this for a living as a security surveyor for ADT/ Tyco Fire and Security.
Now I'm off to have a look at the previously posted GDPR guidance.

In Belgium here the rules are somewhat different and you are not allowed to record people in a public place without their express permission, digital recordings were not admissible in court, that one got me after an operation here, had to begin again with a 35mm camera and it is the negatives/positive film(slides) that is the evidence not the prints.

Have to have peoples express permission to record them..... What numb skull thought that one up and how on this green earth could that work. Does anyone ever film anything in Belgium legally you might ask. Once again people trying to regulate the unstoppable march of Technology........ They will never win.......... Lots of people will make lots of money however writing the nonsense..... would be nice if they applied themselves to summit useful me thinks