Chiara’s slave
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Not so much a gunboat as a vanguard.
Catamarans for cruising. Numbers continuing to grow.
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Supertramp
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Couldn't resist this.
Spurious as its one incident and thankfully no-one lost. Monohulls don't have escape hatches although perhaps some of these wide blade keel ones do.
Disney cruise ship rescues four people from sinking catamaran
Spurious as its one incident and thankfully no-one lost. Monohulls don't have escape hatches although perhaps some of these wide blade keel ones do.
Disney cruise ship rescues four people from sinking catamaran
MisterBaxter
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What's the motion like on a modern cat? My experience is limited to a good sail on a 30' Wharram, which was really delightful downwind, with the heavily flared hull giving lots of lift to the bow when needed, and effortless directional control; but a kind of springy hobbyhorse motion upwind that was quite wearing. But they obviously have a very specific and unusual hull form and rig.
dunedin
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Chiara’s slave
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If that were my cat, I wouldn’t be abandoning it. The cruise ship was 80 miles away when it heard the call. It has to be 3 hours at the absolute minimum til they could have a boat in the water next to them, maybe 4 or 5. If that boat was sinking, it's showing no evidence of it there.
dunedin
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Yes that was my immediate reaction also. Doesn't seem at all low in the water.
Hermit
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My lottery win Cat: Explocat 52 - The aluminium Exploration catamaran by Garcia Yachts
capnsensible
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You have to be there to make the decision, I suppose...........
Stemar
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Yum - all I need are those six little numbers...
Though the helms seem rather exposed - while I like the visibility, especially when coming alongside, it isn't so good in the sun or the rain
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Chiara’s slave
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Of course you do. But it is still floating high after at least 3 hours, which is great for survival regardless of the decision. It’s a damn sight easier to find a whole boat, rather than a liferaft, or, God forbid, people in lifejackets. There is always the possibility that it was not a blue light emergency and they have’t actually abandoned it. Maybe just taken off any less robust crew, and then running for a port. Reporting can be rather sketchy sometimes.
capnsensible
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Sorry me old, but that's an impossible decision to make based on a photo that some people can't even decide is a catamaran!
When the skipper decides to release any information about his decision, we will all know. Until then anything else is just guesswork and speculation. In my opinion of course!!
dunedin
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The pictures in post #84 when you scroll down - and various others if you Google the yacht name and date, clearly show it as a catamaran, and floating very high. Stern scoop barely kissing the water, not much more than a boat with extra gear for a crossing. Boat level so assume other side the same.Sorry me old, but that's an impossible decision to make based on a photo that some people can't even decide is a catamaran!
When the skipper decides to release any information about his decision, we will all know. Until then anything else is just guesswork and speculation. In my opinion of course!!
Chiara’s slave
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It is indeed. What else are we going to talk about?Sorry me old, but that's an impossible decision to make based on a photo that some people can't even decide is a catamaran!
When the skipper decides to release any information about his decision, we will all know. Until then anything else is just guesswork and speculation. In my opinion of course!!
capnsensible
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The list of what it doesn't show is massively longer!
capnsensible
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The list of what we don't know about the incident?
Chiara’s slave
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I think what we are doing is talking about how fast it’s sinking.
capnsensible
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That's a good start on what we don't know.
capnsensible
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I can add wind and seastate now and what is forecast.
Capability of the skipper and crew
What is exactly leaking.....the escape hatch may or may not be. But if one is, on the cats I've sailed, that could r could be a lot of water
What damage has been done inside the boat
Have any other key services been rendered inoperable
Can the water be pumped out
Yadda yadda.
I've twice had flooding incidents offshore. Which my crew and I sorted enough to return to a safe have within 3 days. So I whilst I kinda get what's occurring, there is still no one here who is doing anything else than wild ass guessing. So to speak.
Capability of the skipper and crew
What is exactly leaking.....the escape hatch may or may not be. But if one is, on the cats I've sailed, that could r could be a lot of water
What damage has been done inside the boat
Have any other key services been rendered inoperable
Can the water be pumped out
Yadda yadda.
I've twice had flooding incidents offshore. Which my crew and I sorted enough to return to a safe have within 3 days. So I whilst I kinda get what's occurring, there is still no one here who is doing anything else than wild ass guessing. So to speak.
Chiara’s slave
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But we do know the cruise ship was 80 miles away when it set off to help. And there we have a photo of a catamaran apparently floating ‘normally’, in the same shot as the ship and it’s rescue craft launched and near the distressed vessel. The cat is absolutely certainly not just about to disappear beneath the waves. A leaking escape hatch, we know that. Smashed, or a defective seal, or some silly b**** opened it at sea, we don’t know that. But the hatch is above the normal waterline, so even if it’s open or smashed, the initial water ingress might seem a lot, but really isn’t. Offshore multis should be carrying gear to mitigate the loss of the hatch. Thing is, with these type of incidents, you yourself could get to the bottom of it with a quick chat with the crew, and a minute looking at the boat if still floating. But, most likely, we’ll never know the true nature of the problem, because reporters don’t know what questions to ask, and the evidence is adrift or sunk. An investigation likewise rarely gets to the real truth, as most people are unwilling to admit fault. So what we don’t know is likely to remain hidden.That's a good start on what we don't know.