Anders_P42
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Tricky one to resolve, you can see the issue with the step entering cabin with 4th cabin removed.
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Tricky one to resolve, you can see the issue with the step entering cabin with 4th cabin removed.
PowerYachtBlog
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Absolutely. And they even offered (as an option - pretty sure at silly prices, but hey-ho!) an electrical actuator for that transom door, go figure...
PS: coming to think of it, I have a copy of the huge Ferretti options list, so I just checked it:
The 53 could be ordered with the automatic transom door for just 6825 Eur.
A bargain, considering that such option was combined with the automatic swim ladder....
Lol I sold a new 53 to a client in 1997 and yes he ordered it. I know cost was around 10k but he ordered the automatic movement swimming ladder as well with it.
Most impressive thing was that they wanted to charge us about 80k EURO to change the arm chairs in saloon (to port side on entrance) with a fixed whole unit and a TV apparatus that comes up and down.
We saw hull number three (seatrialled in Lavagna), [one in Genoa (World Presentation) was nos.5] with that design and my client wanted it similar.
Anyway I argued with them that was a lot of money since they had the design, and they said when they change units (different to production) they make new design to suit the owner wishes.
They eventually discounted it by some 20k EUROS equivalent in Italian Lira.
A voyage back in time that was, and when Ferretti 53 was selling so much in that Genoa it was unbelievable for them, twelve hulls in the first five days of the Genoa boat show.
It already showed it was a winner.
MapisM
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Funnily, the price I checked was taken from the options list of season 2004/2005 (it was called 530 by then, but pretty much the same boat), so it appears that they actually reduced prices, eventually...
Talking of silly prices, what always made me laugh is that you had to pay 400 Eur for each bathroom, if you wanted to NOT have the bidet...
...And that was in their whole range, i.e. (back in 2004) from the 460 to the 880, go figure! :ambivalence:
PowerYachtBlog
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Funnily, the price I checked was taken from the options list of season 2004/2005 (it was called 530 by then, but pretty much the same boat), so it appears that they actually reduced prices, eventually...
Talking of silly prices, what always made me laugh is that you had to pay 400 Eur for each bathroom, if you wanted to NOT have the bidet...
...And that was in their whole range, i.e. (back in 2004) from the 460 to the 880, go figure! :ambivalence:
Yes 530 (the real one) has a longer lower window and more nice oak interior but may be cheaper in quality. Yes they sold 100 plus of 53s/530 in ten years production.
There second best seller behind the 460, which will sell 120 in four years and be replaced by the 470.
53 always brought a stable round of sales, and I think they could have sold more. But they only increased production if some slots where missing from other models.
Back in 1997/98 Ferretti would produce 50-60 boats per year total, whatever you told them they would not increase that nos.
You know how the story works in Italy to expand and Ferretti was always cautious about this at the time.
Eventually that nos will increase to around 100 bpy in around 2002 and may be to be reduced again after 2008.
henryf
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I take back everything I have ever said about Fairline's steps.
That is appalling......
Henry
PowerYachtBlog
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I take back everything I have ever said about Fairline's steps.
That is appalling......
Henry
That picture is photo-shopped, chopping the cabinet which comes at you in the entrance.
With the cabinet the steps is constructive meaning you step on the side, and then in the middle.
This by my understanding is also hull one, so we have to see what changes they will do in the following builds.
Also this is a thirteen meter full beam midships cabin boat with shaft drives, there has to be some sort of compromises.
As Mapis says putting full beam midships room in under 18 meters 60 feet is not easy more so in under 15 and very difficult for 13 meters with shafts.
To make you work a bit at the task here its like putting a midships room on a Princess 43 and may be adding a foot. May be not cause the Ferretti has also an up down bathing platform.
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Anders_P42
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I take back everything I have ever said about Fairline's steps.
That is appalling......
Henry
As PowerYachtBlog says it's a 'shop. I'll take it as a compliment that at a quick glance you didn't spot it
Here's the original
MapisM
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Not even remotely comparable, imho.
Here we are talking of a silly bit of design for good, but one that is easy to fix.
The pic below took me 3 mins to draw, and it wouldn't have taken much more to do that during build.
And pretty sure, Zuccon & C. are more than able to come up with something even better.
My guess is that they either overlooked the problem, or thought that the larger cabinet had its appeal anyway.
Not uncommon at all, in #1 hulls, possibly built in a bit of a rush...
