Can you refuse

[gonfishing]

to take a line to enable a boat to raft up next to you on a mooring??? also if you have no option other than to raft up to another boat has the owner of the boat you raft up to any right to remove your lines?? This has actually happened to friends of mine recently and is creating quite a bit of annimosity within the Bristol Channel

Julian

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[tcm]

i would say yes one could refuse a rafter to hold alongside- though the only valid argument would be safety, not nimbyism.

If someone else rafts on, then it's not on to remove their lines . But it is ok to knockem up to makem put on shore lines, move fenders, or go on their boat and do so - provided that it really is a question of protecting your own boat, cleats, tenability.

It can't be right to remove lines without advising them, and them (however reluctantly) agreeing.

I am fine about people rafting up to me but i don't have any side cleats, so they don't...

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[hlb]

If your on private mooring, no one has the right to mor alongside. However mostly rafting is usual on visitors moorings and is down to the harbour masters view. So you cant refuse. Less of course theres some danger that the harbour master would go along with. Not just because you dont like the look of them. Suspect the HM would kick you off if you refused.

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Haydn

 

[jhr]

<<I am fine about people rafting up to me >>

If I remember rightly from a previous post, your problem is that you find it hard to say no to others rafting up to you, particularly in Newtown Creek? /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

As other have said, it's down to local rules and wot the HM says. Some people will try to deny you the right to raft up to them when the owner of the mooring is happy for you to do so - the moorings off the Bankes Arms at Studland is an example of this - in other cases it might be foolhardy because the mooring is not up to it and you will find that you become part of a drifting flotilla. However wrong you may be in rafting up, it seems to me that letting go your lines is completely inexcusable and might lay the perpetrator open to all kinds of legal action in these litigious times?

When I raft up alongside a boat with no side cleats, I usually find that a couple of grappling irons works a treat..............

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[Deleted User YDKXO]

I think there's a world of difference between a private mooring and a visitors morring. You should only raft up against a privately moored boat with permission of the HM but IMHO, its completely different on a visitors mooring. Anyone visiting a busy harbour and expecting not to be rafted is being totally selfish except, of course, if the HM doesnt want it
Anyway, I find rafting a very sociable experience and I've spent many an evening boozing with the peeps next door even yotties

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[poter]

>boozing with the peeps next door even yotties<

Bleedin cheek..... Yus and I bet the yooties supplied the beer!!!

poter

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[tcm]

Re: beer from yotties

perhaps! But the powerboat would have supplied the comfy sofa, ice, gin, tonic, lemon, nice biscuits, olives and cheesy things, shelter from sun or rain plus (in Deleted User's case) unlimited standby emergency accidentally-bought shandy...

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[Deleted User YDKXO]

Actually, SWMBO's favourite thing is to offer the yotties next door ice cubes in hot weather for, as any fule kno, an icemaker is the most important piece of equipment on a mobo. The usual pathetic groveling alone is worth the mooring fee

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