Can we come out to play ?

[RJJ]

Bot actions can give a false sense of seurity but neither gives immunity.

There is no such thing as immunity, nor zero risk. In all our actions we can and should take proportionate measures. If you pass near someone, briefly, risk is negligible. If they sneeze in your face AND are infected, the risk is greater. If instead they sneeze into their sleeve and turn away from you / face downwind; if you see them sneezing and keep your distance; the risk is once again negligible.

If I understand correctly you are saying we all have to keep away from other people by diktat, because the risk associated with infectious sneezing people is not only large but, more importantly, unmitigable.

In context of crowded pubs and trains, you may be right. There may literally be nowhere to turn. In context of a marina pontoon, it's bonkers.

 

[CPD]

BJ’s 10 May announcement - I am on the hard and that announcement said to me I can go and do maintenance work alone (maintaining distance of course). Am I wrong ???

 

[Boathook]

BJ’s 10 May announcement - I am on the hard and that announcement said to me I can go and do maintenance work alone (maintaining distance of course). Am I wrong ???

That was my view as well, but I will leave it for a few days before speaking to the boatyard to make sure that the gate is unlocked.

 

[doug748]

Can't see why not. You can travel you can sit in the sun.

The yard may not have clocked this yet though.

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[James W]

That was my view as well, but I will leave it for a few days before speaking to the boatyard to make sure that the gate is unlocked.

From Wednesday, I believe he said. I’ll be there on Thursday then! ??

 

[James W]

Can't see why not. You can travel you can sit in the sun.

The yard may not have clocked this yet though.

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Sod the yard, they can’t hold your property against your will any longer!

 

[V1701]

I'm hopeful that in England (cos none of it applies elsewhere) we'll be allowed to sail (with members of same household or solo) after Weds. Conversations will no doubt have to be had with marinas, boatyards, harbour masters, etc but If you can now travel to exercise or play sport, sit in the sun, interact with someone from another household as long as you keep social distance (imagine how many people are going to interpret that as you can now have a massive party!) I don't think the marinas and boatyards realistically can justify remaining closed.

Caveat: There may well be an element of wishful thinking in the above...

 

[ryanroberts]

A tad given some harbour authorities would send a rib to go shout at neptune himself with a megaphone for not maintaining social distance right now. My fingers and toes crossed though.

 

[stu9000]

Boris said I can travel for exercise. So I'm going to the boat. I won't be able to have friend on board yet and with good reason.

 

[Tomaret]

All very vague - I‘ve read (on the Guardian website, admittedly) that swimming in rivers and lakes, angling, tennis and golf are permitted from Wednesday; it seems logical that day sailing single handed or with household members will be allowed. Perhaps by Wednesday we’ll have more clarity.

 

[PaulRainbow]

Explaining how things will change from Wednesday, he added: "You can sit in the sun in your local park, you can drive to other destinations, you can even play sports but only with members of your own household."

Sounds like sailing to me.

 

[James W]

Explaining how things will change from Wednesday, he added: "You can sit in the sun in your local park, you can drive to other destinations, you can even play sports but only with members of your own household."

Sounds like sailing to me.

Cheers to that Paul!! ?

 

[coveman]

Explaining how things will change from Wednesday, he added: "You can sit in the sun in your local park, you can drive to other destinations, you can even play sports but only with members of your own household."

Sounds like sailing to me.

All sounds encouraging, but the small print will be out in the next day or two - hence the restriction until Wednesday - hopefully by then it will be clearer. I notice the BBC website specifically says water sports will be allowed with family/household members.

 

[Daverw]

Quite from BBC, fingers crossed,
Two people from different households would be allowed to meet in a park if they stay more than two metres apart, the BBC understands, while it is also thought sports like golf, tennis, fishing and outdoor watersports will be allowed for people in the same household.

 

[prv]

Clear as mud, of course, but MDL have interpreted it as allowing visits for maintenance - they've already sent out the email. They imply that going sailing is not permitted (though one would question whether that's really up to them) and say they're waiting for updates from port authorities.

Pete

 

[Yorkshire Exile]

All sounds more hopeful. Hypothetically, if a boat (leisure) sailed North from Berwick after Wednesday into UK territorial waters off the Scottish coast could they be fined under Scottish law? What is the geographical limit of laws enacted under devolved powers by the Scottish Government?

 

[Molteni]

Clear as mud, of course, but MDL have interpreted it as allowing visits for maintenance - they've already sent out the email. They imply that going sailing is not permitted (though one would question whether that's really up to them) and say they're waiting for updates from port authorities.

Pete

from MDL Marinas - let's hope they all follow suit.


"General Update from our MD | May 10th 2020

Under guidance, the Government has announced easing some of its lockdown regulations. This now means:

• Stay at home as much as possible
• Work from home if you can
• Limit contact with other people
• Keep your distance if you go out (2 metres apart where possible)
• Wash your hands regularly
• Self-isolate if you or anyone in your household has symptoms.
  

We have social distancing measures in place and look forward to welcoming people coming to perform maintenance and security checks on their boats. And while we understand the reasoning behind the government's decision to ease lock down rules, in the way it has, we share your frustration about not being able to get out onto the water just yet. We are waiting for any leisure boating changes from the port authorities and will keep you updated.................................................... "

 

[Old Harry]

I have just received this from the RYA

RYA welcomes return to boating
May 10, 2020
Stay alert, stay safe
The Royal Yachting Association (RYA) warmly welcomes a return to the water following the Prime Minister’s announcement today [10 May 2020] during which he stated that from this Wednesday, the Government wants to encourage people to take more and even unlimited amounts of outdoor exercise.
Since the lockdown commenced, the RYA has presented a strong case for boating to be one of the first activities that can be resumed safely within the parameters for social distancing.
From Wednesday, 13 May unlimited outdoor activity will be permitted in England, and we understand that this will include all forms of boating. The Prime Minister also indicated that people would be permitted to travel to other destinations in order to exercise. Any activity will still need to be alone or with members of a single household, and social distancing must be followed at all times.
RYA welcomes return to boating

 

[fredrussell]

See you all out there Wednesday then.

 

[Beneteau381]

I did a show in Rhyl ten years ago as part of a national tour, and it was without doubt the poorest-feeling place we ever went to.An awful lot of mobility scooters, but I think that was visitors rather than residents - it's about the cheapest place you can go for a holiday from Manchester/Liverpool and poor health correlates very strongly with poverty.

As Graham said, they would be residents, the rot began with the advent of cheap flights, the accommodation owners switched from hols to dole rezzies. We spent millions there, they sucked it up! The title “most deprived ward in wales” gave them a sound bite. I met a person who was being funded to get people back to work, all he did was give advice on how to game the system. It’s got better now, crack down on hmos etc.